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So Much For Gun Safety: Another Law Enforcement Gun Stolen in S.F.
SF Weekly ^ | Max DeNike on Tue, May 31, 2016 | Max DeNike on Tue, May 31, 2016

Posted on 06/01/2016 8:55:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway

It seems high time for people authorized to carry firearms to stop leaving them unattended in vehicles, especially in the Bay Area, or they should at least find funding to upgrade every FBI, Secret Service, city cop, and ICE vehicle to a Bat Mobile.

San Francisco police reported Monday that an FBI agent lost his .40-caliber Glock handgun after his vehicle was broken into in Alamo Square. The theft took place during a ten-minute period (was the fed taking selfies in front of the Painted Ladies and was thus terribly distracted?). The g-man’s ID badge and FBI credentials were also pilfered. That’s all the info anyone has on this latest embarrassment.

Last year was a terrible year for law enforcement firearm thefts in the Bay Area. In September, a stolen ICE-issued gun was used in the killing of Oakland artist Antonio Ramos. And, of course, two months earlier in the now-infamous killing of Kathryn Steinle, the alleged murder weapon belonged to a Bureau of Land Management agent who had reported it stolen.

Guns are even just lost sometimes, as evidenced by the ICE agent who in February just left his firearm on top of his car before driving off. Or they are stolen from sheriff’s deputies in home burglaries.

Perhaps the saddest part of it all is that this is fairly common, perhaps even accepted. And that the guns are almost never recovered.

The ATF, which ironically is supposed to prevent illegal firearms trafficking, lost about 12 guns a year from 2009 to 2013. And, according to a 2003 GAO report, some 250 guns belonging to federal agents go missing every year, with 80 percent never recovered.

No one is quite sure why this happens, and it’s likely in the best interests of federal agencies for the general public to be in the dark on how agents are supposed to handle their firearms. But guns are a problem, a polarizing one at that, and we’re supposed to handle them with care.

At least someone in San Francisco is doing something about it, kinda. In February, Supervisor David Campos’s law passed requiring certain storage requirements for firearms left in vehicles.

However, it won’t really matter in the cases of federal agents since the law does not apply to outside jurisdictions such as the ones in all the recent stolen guns cases.

Of course, off-duty cops and feds could either a) keep their guns on them or b) leave them at home when they're not encountering bad guys. Or is that too simple?


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alamosquare; banglist; california; carlosmanfredi; crime; fastandfurious; fbi; glock27; guncontrol; guns; police; sanfrancisco; secondamendment

1 posted on 06/01/2016 8:55:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Only police should have ......................


2 posted on 06/01/2016 8:57:26 AM PDT by TYVets
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To: nickcarraway

This wasn’t ‘just LE’....it was the so-called “cream of the Crop, FBI.” Badge and gun...


3 posted on 06/01/2016 8:58:19 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TYVets

If this were you or I we’d be facing actual prison time for violating the gun storage laws in California.


4 posted on 06/01/2016 9:00:15 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: nickcarraway

Give them a stipend to buy their own gun...once. I’d bet they’d watch over their guns better, if the next one came out of their own pocket.


5 posted on 06/01/2016 9:00:16 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: nickcarraway

The gun is what catches everyone’s attention but a gun can be obtained anywhere legally or not. Same for the badge.

The real loss is the credentials which are valuable on the black market. They are difficult to reproduce as they are made by the bureau of engraving and printing to high standards.


6 posted on 06/01/2016 9:08:50 AM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: TYVets

Do these federal dumbasses READ THE FREAKING NEWSPAPERS. Even the papers in SF don’t bother to cover up the rampant street crime there. If you are in the auto glass replacement business, it’s PARTY TIME there for you (as long as your own business isn’t robbed, of course).

If these are the best and brightest that we have...then we are in BIG DAMN TROUBLE.


7 posted on 06/01/2016 9:32:08 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day".)
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To: The Antiyuppie

I have family back in cali. For years they insisted that the Bay Area was one of the safest places to live. As of late, they’ve changed their tune.


8 posted on 06/01/2016 9:37:54 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: nickcarraway
They got the gun back. No go on the badge. Notice how they did it. SWAT team in the Bayview.
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/articleComments/Gun-stolen-from-FBI-vehicle-recovered-in-San-7955063.php
9 posted on 06/01/2016 9:52:11 AM PDT by Polynikes ( Hakkaa palle)
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To: nickcarraway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnGqdGF-gCs

Auto Theft, Breaking a Window in Public - I bet the police car plainly marked to make it a target.


10 posted on 06/01/2016 10:09:34 AM PDT by dila813 (Voting for Trump to Punish Trumpets!)
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To: nickcarraway

It begs the question what was this agent doing that he/she didn’t want to be encumbered by the gun, badge and ID? Do FBI agents casually transition in and out of on-duty status on a regular basis? Do they bother to read newspapers?


11 posted on 06/01/2016 10:17:57 AM PDT by DPMD (o)
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The steam in bath houses can’t be good for firearms.


12 posted on 06/01/2016 12:03:22 PM PDT by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
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To: TYVets

Every FBI, Secret Service, city cop, should only carry a Smart gun.


13 posted on 06/01/2016 6:37:02 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the blind obedience of fools - Solon, Lawmaker of Athens)
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