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General Odierno Says ISIS Was Avoidable
The Washingon Free Beacon ^ | May 20, 2016 | Jack Heretik

Posted on 05/20/2016 4:50:59 PM PDT by Kaslin

General Odierno Says ISIS was Avoidable

Gen. Raymond Odierno said he believes the Islamic State’s creation was avoidable during an interview on MSNBC’s Morning Joe.

Host Joe Scarborough asked Odierno, who commanded the Multi-National Forces in Iraq for about two years, if ISIS and the current state of Iraq were avoidable when the United States ended formal combat operations there.

“Did it ever have to begin? Was ISIS avoidable?” Scarborough asked.

“I think it is, and I’m not one for revisionist history,” Odierno said. “Actually, I was, on 1 September 2010, that’s when I gave up command in Iraq and that was the end of, we declared that was the end of combat operations when I left.”

“What was the state of Iraq when we got out of there?” Scarborough said.

“Yeah, so it was in great shape. Violence was down, the economy was growing, a fairly stable political system, although there were signs that maybe it wouldn’t be so stable, so it was going well,” Odierno said. “And I think if we had stayed, I think it could have made a difference. Now that’s easy to say now, you have to get the Iraqis to approve that and I think Secretary Gates made a point yesterday that Iraq probably wouldn’t let us bring in hundreds of thousands or tens of thousands of people back into Iraq for a lot of reasons.”

“And so I think we have to now come up with a strategy that works within the political framework that’s been established or the political, I would say, disarray that we have in that region now and we have to really think hard through that,” Odierno said.


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1 posted on 05/20/2016 4:50:59 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

and then Hillary Clinton happened


2 posted on 05/20/2016 5:10:37 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Kaslin

Of course it was avoidable.

Obama withdrew from there. Just left there to let these guys take over with their atrocity fueled offensive.

They were nothing with us there.

And simultaneously, Obama released prisoners or traded those who would go on to lead The Islamic State.

Obama couldn’t have done more if he was trying to purposely do it.


3 posted on 05/20/2016 5:12:12 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

No. The creation of ISIS was necessary in order to push Muslim refugees out of the Middle East and INTO Europe and the United States. This was the plan from the get go. Announced U.S. withdrawal from Iraq and the hurried bombing of Libya without Congressional approval was also part of the overall plan to flood the EU and U.S. with millions more Muslims, thus expanding the Caliphate.


4 posted on 05/20/2016 5:13:58 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Females DESTROYED America.)
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5 posted on 05/20/2016 5:21:20 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

It’s just the Junior Varsity.


6 posted on 05/20/2016 5:24:44 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Kaslin

“Did it ever have to begin? Was ISIS avoidable?” Scarborough asked.

Why of course. The Arab Spring was a false flag operation initiated by the CIA, in conjunction with His Arrogance and Benghazi Clinton, and could have been easily avoided had the American voters not been taking mind altering drugs.


7 posted on 05/20/2016 5:33:39 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (The answer: To frustrate FOIA requests and conceal the money laundering of bribes thru the CGCI!)
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To: eyedigress

Didn’t that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania refer to it as JV varsity?


8 posted on 05/20/2016 5:37:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

I think he said JV team or something. Hell, half the nation doesn’t have a clue what that means.


9 posted on 05/20/2016 6:21:49 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west))
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To: Kaslin

ISIS = Obama’s children


10 posted on 05/20/2016 8:04:25 PM PDT by Western Phil
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To: Kaslin
The Obama Administration invested a lot of time, money and assets to nurture and protect ISIS to make it what it is today
11 posted on 05/20/2016 9:36:44 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Milleraere)
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To: Kaslin
Actually got the whole JV thing backwards because of a teleprompter malfunction

When Obama read off “ISIS is JV”, what he really meant to say was “VJ is ISIS” - everybody knows VJ are Valerie Jarrett's initials

12 posted on 05/20/2016 9:42:29 PM PDT by rdcbn ("If what has happened here is not treason, it is its first cousin." Zell Milleraere)
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To: Kaslin

Of course ISIS was avoidable. Obama was even warned. A real American president, not a “pResident”, would have smashed ISIS before now at lower cost, too..


13 posted on 05/21/2016 6:48:17 AM PDT by Rapscallion (You are correct. It IS a conspiracy, not a bad dream.)
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To: ifinnegan

***Of course it was avoidable.

Obama withdrew from there. Just left there to let these guys take over with their atrocity fueled offensive.***

Yeah he screwed up by getting us out early. But he should never have had that option because we shouldn’t have been there in the first place!

Bush bombed the wrong countries because he had to do something because we were so angry after 9/11. He knew who was responsible, but they were and still are his buddies, and he wasn’t about to bomb them

Bush is a bastard and a war criminal.


14 posted on 05/21/2016 8:36:07 AM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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You’re a moon bat liberal communist.

Cindy Sheehan.

Michael Moore.


15 posted on 05/21/2016 10:36:21 AM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: Kaslin

ISIS, in one form or the other, was longed planned by Saddam Hussein. It was a post-American/Allies occupation revival plan for the Sunnis with, or without Saddam. That is why Al-Dura or Duri or a top Iraqi general with a similar name became its’ head (he was on the Deck of Evil 25 cards wanted list).

What Al Dura did was to pull out of hiding Saddam’s plans and put them into action, but he added a Islamic fanaticism to it that had not necessarily existed before.

Thanks to Cleric Moqtadar (Mooky) and his crazy Shite murderers of Sunnis, what had been severe but limited political/religious strife became all-out Islamic Jihad with a Caliphate ideology, with the Shiites getting hit hard even in Baghdad.

That is what elevated the traditional internal religious divisions into ethnic and religious genocide plus Al Dura’s fight against the Allies who overthrew Saddam.

Obama and his quislings made all this possible by deliberately taking our troops out of Iraq. This was an act of treason about our military personnel. Hopefully a Trump Administration will bring those guilty of this treason to trial and prison.


16 posted on 05/21/2016 9:32:13 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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***You’re a moon bat liberal communist.

Cindy Sheehan.

Michael Moore.***

Ooh name calling. You didn’t refute a word I said.

Beat it. No one takes you seriously.


17 posted on 05/22/2016 9:21:32 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: ifinnegan

***You’re a moon bat liberal communist.

Cindy Sheehan.

Michael Moore.***

Ooh name calling. You didn’t refute a word I said. There are plenty of conservatives who feel the same way I do. Look up Bush smoking a cigar with the Saudi ambassador 2 days after 9/11 and how he funded several of the hijackers and the government has been hiding that from us.

You’re a tool.

Beat it. No one takes you seriously.


18 posted on 05/22/2016 9:44:14 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

The fact remains you are 100% in line with Code Pink, Michael Moore and all the communists.


19 posted on 05/22/2016 9:46:15 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: ifinnegan

In your eyes, but I don’t care what you think.

I think Bush is a bastard for sending our men and women into the wrong countries instead of fighting our true enemies, those bastard Saudi’s.

You can keep kissing his arse if you choose. I see him for what he is; a Saudi b*tch.


20 posted on 05/23/2016 1:54:03 PM PDT by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God. ROLL TIDE!!)
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