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What Would It Take for Donald Trump to Deport 11 Million and Build a Wall?
The New York Times ^ | MAY 19, 2016 | JULIA PRESTON, ALAN RAPPEPORT and MATT RICHTEL

Posted on 05/20/2016 8:39:08 AM PDT by conservative98

He has said that the wall would be built from precast concrete and steel and that it could be 50 feet tall, if not higher. After calling for it to extend across the entire 2,000-mile southern border, he more recently said half that length could be sufficient because of natural barriers. He has pegged the cost at $4 billion to $12 billion, most recently settling on around $10b.

Some see that as low. “There’s a lot of logistics involved in this, and I don’t know how thoroughly they’ve thought it out,” said Todd Sternfeld, chief executive of Superior Concrete, a Texas-based builder of walls. “The resources alone would be astronomical.”

Mr. Sternfeld, who has led major wall projects across the country and approached the Trump family last summer, suggested that Mr. Trump was overly optimistic about the cost and was underestimating the complexity of the undertaking.

Running the numbers, Mr. Sternfeld said a 40-foot-tall concrete wall using a “post and panel” system that went 10 feet below the ground — to minimize tunneling — would cost at least $26 billion. The logistics would be nightmarish, including multiple concrete casting sites and temporary housing for a crew of 1,000 workers if the job were to be completed within Mr. Trump’s first four-year term.

Maintenance would be an additional recurring expense, said Walter W. Boles, an engineering professor at Middle Tennessee State University who specializes in concrete construction. Deep trench work would also be necessary for keeping a wall of that height from toppling, he said, and seismic sensors to detect digging would be wise for preserving its integrity from below.

“That’s one heck of a construction project,” said Mr. Boles, who assessed Patrick J. Buchanan’s 1996 proposal for a border barrier. “It’s certainly a lot more ambitious than I was imagining.”

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: New York
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NYT doesn't allow comments, so I want to hear your comments here. Basically NYT says the wall is too big and impracticle and Trump is an "idiot."
1 posted on 05/20/2016 8:39:08 AM PDT by conservative98
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To: conservative98

Will power.


2 posted on 05/20/2016 8:40:30 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: conservative98

A lot more than you can afford, considering that he’s not going to do either of those things.


3 posted on 05/20/2016 8:41:09 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: conservative98

10 billion is cheap. Hillary lost more than 10 billion. I remember the IRS was audited and couldn’t account for Billions.


4 posted on 05/20/2016 8:41:24 AM PDT by IC Ken
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To: conservative98

270 electoral votes.


5 posted on 05/20/2016 8:42:32 AM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: conservative98

Seems to me that the New York Slimes are the idiots...have they ever built a wall? NO....


6 posted on 05/20/2016 8:43:10 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump; Trump; Trump; Trump; 100%)
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To: conservative98

Simple, stop the damned welfare, food stamps, emergency rooms, etc. . They will go back by themselves or starve. Then take the money you have saved in food stamps and build a wall with prisoner labor...hard labor from those who came here and committed crimes.


7 posted on 05/20/2016 8:43:44 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ( Anything FREELY-GIVEN by the government was TAKEN from someone else.)
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To: conservative98

Lots of dump trucks.....


8 posted on 05/20/2016 8:43:50 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: conservative98

I would love to see the wall become reality but don’t think it will happen. The best wall is the enforcement of existing laws which will not happen as well. Regardless, Trump has brought the issue front and center. If he can do three things: Protect the border, rebuild the military and appoint constitutional conservatives on the court, then I’m with him. Viva Donald!


9 posted on 05/20/2016 8:43:50 AM PDT by WyCoKsRepublican
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To: conservative98

If we were to enforce the law already in place forbidding work and residence and also remove all government benefits to illegal immigrants then the cost would be minimal. Indeed, if everyone coming here illegally only faced starvation and homelessness then there would not even be a need to build the wall.


10 posted on 05/20/2016 8:44:04 AM PDT by Petrosius
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...NYT doesn’t allow comments...

As a major liberal tactic, dissent and views different from those of liberals are not allowed. The opposition must be silenced. If that can’t be accomplished, then the opposition must be destroyed by every means possible.


11 posted on 05/20/2016 8:44:16 AM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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To: conservative98
CA is planning on spending five (5) times that for a quick train from nowhere to nowhere.

The US budget is 21 trillion annual, 21 thousand billion.

Scraping together that amount, even if mehico was not sent the bill, is a piece of cake.

12 posted on 05/20/2016 8:45:04 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma deuce)
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To: conservative98

Get the money from here:

Outraged over $23 billion in wrongful tax credits? Blame Congress

“The IRS has, for years, known and reported that nearly 25 percent of the EITC payments it makes are going to people who don’t actually qualify for the credit under the law. And in a vast number of cases, the agency has the ability to identify these false claims before payment is issued. However, it has neither have the legislative authority to stop those payments from being issued nor the necessary resources to investigated incorrect EITC claims on an individual basis.”

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/outraged-over-23-billion-wrongful-081500609.html


13 posted on 05/20/2016 8:45:17 AM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: rjsimmon

Yep.


14 posted on 05/20/2016 8:45:58 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: conservative98
Not a construction expert but deporting could be done for about $550 million.

$50 bounty on every uninjured Illegal payable in cash at any southern POE.

I35 would be jammed up southbound with redneck dually pickups hauling cattle trailers.

15 posted on 05/20/2016 8:45:59 AM PDT by Feckless (The US Gubbmint / This Tagline CENSORED by FR \ IrOnic, ain't it?)
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To: conservative98
The logistics would be nightmarish, including multiple concrete casting sites and temporary housing for a crew of 1,000 workers if the job were to be completed within Mr. Trump’s first four-year term.

Use a whip and get it done in three.

16 posted on 05/20/2016 8:46:04 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.com)
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To: Ken H

Don’t forget 213 in the House and 60 in the Senate.


17 posted on 05/20/2016 8:46:11 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: conservative98

As I read the excerpt, I hear the echo of a plumber looking at my toilet and saying, “Whoa, this is going to be expensive.”


18 posted on 05/20/2016 8:49:04 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: who knows what evil?

Hire the Chinese. They build great walls.


19 posted on 05/20/2016 8:49:19 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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To: conservative98

Sure, so we do nothing?

Hey NYT all your Holy Grails will never be wiped out, so why do anything about them? AIDS ain’t goin away, so why bother? Neither is crime, just let em go. Drugs? Same result. “Racism”? Same.

Go ahead, follow your own advice and just ignore what “ails” you about this country and the world. It is what it is.

Deal?


20 posted on 05/20/2016 8:49:52 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (#BoycottTarget #BoycottRoss Women & children hurt the most)
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