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My favorite part:

As coarse as it may sound to those immersed in high-minded thought, the simple truth is that the United States doesn't have a poverty problem.

 

 

 

Maybe someday we can even put to bed once and for all minimum wage hikes too.

1 posted on 05/10/2016 4:16:53 AM PDT by expat_panama
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I'm pretty much in the "guaranteed income" place now. Wife and I worked hard and saved/put away finds and now get retirement check/social security checks and have decent IRAs with a guaranteed rate of return with 100% protection of principle.

The difference is we worked for it vs. having it handed to us - makes the ability to buy a car w/o a loan and eat at the occasional 'fine restaurant" sweeter somehow when we could have sat on our asses and then complained about how cheap the government (tax payers) is when it comes to satisfying our wants beyond our needs......

2 posted on 05/10/2016 4:29:24 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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When approached wth “Would you like to give to the poor?” I always say ‘F the poor. Let their own governments help them.’ The rejoinder usually is “No, here in the US”. Me, walking away: ‘We have no poor.’


3 posted on 05/10/2016 4:30:49 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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4 posted on 05/10/2016 4:35:04 AM PDT by expat_panama
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This is the casino indian model. Or, the Alaskan oil model.


5 posted on 05/10/2016 4:38:40 AM PDT by anton
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How about guaranteed billionaire?

Like for instance, the folks in Zimbabwe ...


9 posted on 05/10/2016 4:51:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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It also does not address a pressing US problem the profoundly mentally ill and retareded whose needs cost way more than a basic income, even if they are provided only three hots and a cot. Medicatins costs and caretaker costs, even if it is state mental health facilities, would be important.


12 posted on 05/10/2016 4:54:40 AM PDT by Chickensoup (Leftist totalitarian governments are the biggest killer of citizens in the world.)
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This was part of the platform of McGovern’s campaign back in 1972—I know, I was part of the campaign, when I was 18, naïve, idealistic, and believing in the inherent goodness of humankind. 44 years later, I am less naïve, just as idealistic, and believe in the inherent sinfulness of humankind, which is why I am here rather than on DU. McGovern never outgrew his liberalism, but at least one of his supporters did.


14 posted on 05/10/2016 5:34:54 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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with all due respect to those who have been forced into receiving welfare benefits,IMO, welfare benefits should only be to sustain a basic lifestyle. Not to enhance it.


16 posted on 05/10/2016 5:38:44 AM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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All that would happen is that every year they’d whine that it wasn’t enough and needs to be raised.


18 posted on 05/10/2016 5:40:42 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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In addition to supposedly eliminating vast government bureaucracies, the guaranteed minimum has one key advantage: Ignoring payroll taxes, the guaranteed minimum income would make the marginal tax rate for poor people 0 per cent, or at least very low. This is in contradistinction to current welfare policies which, by subtracting benefits as income rises, can make the marginal income tax for poor people as much as 50 per cent or greater.


20 posted on 05/10/2016 6:34:55 AM PDT by Fractal Trader (ping)
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Rudyard Kipling saw the guaranteed income scheme coming nearly 100 years ago, after the Spanish flu epidemic that followed WWI.He explains it in this passage of"The Gods of the Copybook Headings"
In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all, By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul; But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy, And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."
27 posted on 05/11/2016 5:32:26 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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Universal Basic Income falls apart when you attach numbers to it. It’s never enough money


28 posted on 05/11/2016 5:33:54 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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guaranteed income is will be the result of guaranteed work

As per the old American founder thought...... he who doesn’t work, neither shall he eat


29 posted on 05/11/2016 4:43:23 PM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....)
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