Posted on 05/05/2016 3:40:16 AM PDT by SJackson
I think if Putin did send his Armies into Europe it would be to save them from the muslims invaders.
It is not a question if there will there be a war in Europe because that war has already begun, and only one side if fighting.
The question is will the Europeans wake up in time to save themselves
Side effect of the welfare state.
But they won't really leave.
And we will not have been in ANY position to save them at EITHER point.
“The 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because, you know, the cold war has been over for 20 years.”
-Barack Obama
-PJ
I oppose ANY use of American troops in Europe. Get out of NATO. Bring those troops home for good.
If Russia invaded Western Europe would he stop the Muslim invasion? Yes, I think so.
Won't it be something if the eastern European nations invited the Russians to stop the EU from dumping those pesky invaders on them?
That would cost the Russians a ton of money. And since oil prices are down, I don’t think he has the resources.
His army would get there. And then they would run out of gas.
And...we are not much more capable.
The direct military invasion threat from Putin and Russia is microscopic compared to the threat of all-out jihad civil war across Europe with their moslem invaders.
Tet, Take Two: Islam’s 2016 European Offensive
http://gatesofvienna.net/2015/11/tet-take-two-islams-2016-european-offensive/
One of Hussein’s major missions is to dump significant numbers of Muslim invaders into the west. The Muslim terrorists know they can win the game of numbers as they can dump millions of Muslims into any country
Husseins effort of Muslim victory by numbers is going well in Europe but not so good in the US. But Putin being a wild card in Europe should give hope to the civilized world as he will exterminate the Muslim invasion if he feels that is necessary
Obama and the Muslim terrorists thought they had won the war but it looks like Putin can stop the pro Muslim insanity.
Observation 1: Nothing over the past twenty years has shown the Russian military to be capable of handling much more than a very limited military action against a far smaller military force. At best, they pick and choose situations where they know they can come out with a better-than-average military conclusion.
Observation 2: To be any threat across Europe....you’d have to maneuver a tank-force over a 500 km-plus of trip-wire (Poland, Belarus, Bulgaria, etc). If you figure up all the TOW’s available (US, NATO, etc)...at least 2,000 of the Russian tanks won’t be on the scoreboard after the fifth day of this operation.
Observation 3: If you line up the top 1000 Russian Oligarchs....who exactly thinks this is a wise idea and would let Putin do this? Rome, Paris and Berlin is their playground where they spend weekends with their ‘honey’ and spend tens of millions on fake fashion.
Observation 4: If you took out these idiot rich Europeans and replaced them with Russian underlords and doomed their economy....what idiot would pay the obscene prices for natural gas and oil that Russian currently sells European dimwits?
Maybe this is a decent “what-if” discussion one night....with a decent bottle of Czech-made Becherovka...but there are five hundred better what-if discussions in my humble opinion.
Jan Becher ping...
“If Russia invaded Western Europe would he stop the Muslim invasion? Yes, I think so.”
Flawed logic for sure. The so called Muslim invasion is already well underway. But, it’s happening from the inside out. Muslims are emigrating to Europe both legally and illegally and embedding themselves within the local populations. Hence, no army, any army, will be able to ferret them out. And, a Muslim majority won’t be necessary for them to gain power. All that’s required is a population of perhaps 5% or thereabouts concentrated within major population centers and they’ve got it. France has already lost its country. The U.K. and Germany are next.
The American taxpayer has paid for the defense of Western Europe for since 1945. The European economy has been capable of funding its own defense since the late 1960’s. It is long past time for the USA to let Europe choose its own fate.
The US taxpayer not only saved Europe from the Nazis, the US poured billions into rebuilding the European economy after WWII through the Marshall Plan.
How many Euros did the EU send to the US to rebuild lower Manhattan after 9/11?
Pull all of the troops out of Europe and let them decide their fate.
I wouldn’t do it Russia, this time the roads/highways are nice and solid and the Germans have wider tank tracks.
I agree, I find Islam to be the biggest threat we face. They are all smiles and charming here right now. It won’t be too long before they show their true colours. To speak of it though gets you branded a racist. If you point out that Islam isn’t a race, you get the deer in the headlights look right back at you.
First Putin will put back his Russian Empire, with all of the old soviet union satellite states. Europe and NATO will not do anything meaningful, when Putin’s consolidation starts, thus sending him a signal.
Second, Europe will be embroiled within with their own civil wars. Since it is not a foreign force invasion, American sentiment will be hard pushed to get involved.
Third, large scale Russian invasion of western Europe will be in the name of ‘stabilization’. Nobody knows how it will end.
To your Obs #2, I will say that I want to agree, but as we saw with what happened in the Crimea, the world powers do little more than wag their finger at aggressors anymore. Putin marched across that stretch of land with little resistance, and the world powers watched as the Ukraine basically ceded its land back to Russia. I understand that this area historically is a hotbed of activity, and that its been an area of contention for centuries; but if the world powers, and NATO, wanted to do anything, they missed their chance by a long shot.
One additional observation I’d like to add: European youth have degraded to the same point of sloth as American youth. They want their TV, Internet, their phones, their booze and drugs, and they want everything subsidized. They don’t want to work. If Russia barrelled through eastern Europe, aside from a likely very heated front through Poland, most fighting-age Europeans would be in shock and curled up in a ball under their beds. Nationalism is all but dead across most of Europe, and a sense of self-worth and pride in one’s country has been replaced with the idea that diplomatic pollyannas are going to make everything better.
Meanwhile, most of Europe is under attack by Muslim invaders, and you hear nary a peep from the media about it. You can read social media such as Twitter and Reddit lament the rapes happening across Scandinavia, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, and Belgium at the hands of Muslim “refugees,” but many just make excuses for the behavior and dismiss it.
We have a serious problem across the world, and it has to do with the emasculation of society. The left is right to worry about fascists coming to power. One saber rattler in Moscow is one thing, but putting several of them in a room together, measuring their military penises, could lead to war. In light of all that’s happening and the abject failure that has been multiculturalism, I believe that war may be the only thing left to right society and put it back to the point where we can be relatively peaceful.
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