Posted on 04/30/2016 11:22:56 AM PDT by grumpa
The media is working hard to convince you that they caught Ted Cruz in a lie about working with John Boehner. But they are the ones lying, as usual.
During an interview hosted by Stanford in Government (SIG) and the Stanford Speakers Bureau, former House Speaker John Boehner referred to presidential candidate Ted Cruz as “Lucifer in the flesh.” He continued, “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”
But Boehner did not “work” with Ted Cruz. Boehner only worked against Cruz as he golfed with Trump, who Boehner referred to as his “texting buddy.”
The comments are reminiscent of other nasty names Boehner has used to describe the constant anti-establishment thorn in his side. Last year, the failed Speaker referred to Cruz as a “jackass,” and still another time as a “false prophet.
As reported at TrevorLoudon.com, Cruz responded in part by saying that he “…never worked with Boehner, and he’s only met him two or three times.” During a 2014 interview at cincinnati.com, Boehner confirmed that he has “not talked to [Cruz]” since he was elected:
— On Cruz, who has given Boehner heartburn by encouraging House conservatives to block moderate proposals floated by Boehner’s team: ‘I’ve not talked to him since he’s been elected’ to the Senate in 2012.
During Thursday’s press conference, Cruz said that he did attempt to reach out to Boehner, but was rebuffed:
“I’ve never had any substantive conversation with John Boehner in any respect,” said Cruz, but he did comment that during the government shutdown, he and Utah Republican Sen. Mike Lee reached out to Boehner.
“I offered to come over and work with the speaker,” said Cruz. “I asked him, ‘can we resolve this and actually get something meaningful done to stop the disaster that is Obamacare?’ John Boehner’s response was ‘I have no interest in talking to you. What possibly could be accomplished by having a conversation? No, I will not meet.’”
Watch the entire press conference here.
The mainstream media was very excited to report that Ted Cruz was likely lying about not having a “substantive conversation” with Boehner. They point to an interview Boehner had on Leno as reported at the Washington Post, where Boehner said this:
“Ted Cruz used to be my attorney a long time ago. A good guy. I don’t always agree with him, but he’s a good guy.”
Cruz’s involvement in the case was also discussed in 1998 at The Seattle Times, where Cruz made a statement and was referred to as “an attorney for Boehner.”
Boehner did not speak of any relationship with Cruz, but still, the media was very excited to slam Cruz in any way possible: • CBS breathlessly reported: “Cruz’s claim that he’s never spoken more than fifty words to Boehner is a dubious one…” • NBC dramatically reported that although Cruz said that he has barely spoken with Boehner, “…the two men have a past. The former speaker had actually used Cruz’s considerable legal talents in a rare court fight among lawmakers. In fact, Ted Cruz was once John Boehner’s lawyer.” What is really disturbing about the NBC piece is that something closer to the truth is buried in the article: “Sources close to Boehner say he and Cruz had met during the lawsuit but likely never had contact after Cruz arrived on Capitol Hill in 2013.” So the article goes from “Ted Cruz was once John Boehner’s lawyer” to “…he [Boehner] and Cruz had met during the lawsuit”? • The headline at Fox News was “Cruz claims he doesn’t know Boehner – but was his lawyer.” • In an article titled “Ted Cruz, We’ve Caught You in a Lie,” Gawker quotes Cruz as saying “I’ve never worked with John Boehner… I’ve never known the man.” The article continues to condescendingly declare, “But Ted, you were his lawyer.”
Cruz campaign spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told MailOnline Cruz was a ‘junior associate’ assigned to the Boehner case. Frazier said,
“His [Cruz’s] involvement in it [Boehner’s case] didn’t extend beyond assisting with briefs and attending meetings with Boehner’s staff. He doesn’t recall personally interacting with Boehner during that time.”
Thank you for proving my point.
but he hasn’t denied the “Lucifer in the flesh” charge
Geez, people sucking down the Cruz Kool-Aid are going to be killing themselves by the thousands before they admit their boy is nothing but another grasping Harvard lawyer, one who has been fed garbage by his Dad about how God wants him to be the King of this country.
Worse he was Dubya’s Lawyer.
Here is Mike Savage discussing Ted the insider.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUcCxMpFQbE
If on the other hand, Boehner likes Trump, its that Trump is a uniter.
Regardless, if John Freakin' Boehner is your singular weather vane regarding a candidate, you probably need to get out more.
About what, specifically? Just interested.
Bingo!!
it has. It is shameful
I have sent an e-mail to the webmaster to have my monthly donations stopped
no one wrote back yet
they will lie about ted cruz at the drop of a hat, but they will defend an adulterous draft dodging hillary supporter because he once agains changed party and claims he is a conservative now, despite doing everything to denounce the tea party and send Mcconnel money
not to mention he is buddies with the pedophole jeffrey epstein and has a rape lawsuit against him
all that matters is nameless people make false charges against Cruz
Sorry, didn’t see any such message. Your monthly is stopped. Thanks.
Yeah. Rang true when I read the phrase just now. Constant ad hominem is a key sign of Political Derangement Syndrome, as is the idea that if your guy is good, the other guy must be satan, and must die immediately, and has absolutely no chance of being elected and is pathetic and booger-y.
(And yet why do they get so excited about the opponent if he has no chance of winning?)
Exaggeration and emotion distort reality.
nothing personal brother, but wow, the slander, the lies, to choose a man who brags about his adulteries in his books and tells people he could shoot someone in the face and people will still follow him...
That is NOT Conservatism, and the people that defend this...
Agreed.
Asking the wrong question again. It is not if Ted ever worked with Boehner. The question is Ted just a miserable son of a bitch or is he Lucifer incarnate?
Thanks for understanding and...pass it along, will ya!!
Who to believe, Cryin’ John or Lyin’ Ted?
A pox on both of them.
Race, you seem like a nice person who would not purposefully misquote someone. Trump never said anything about shooting people in the face. His original reference, along with a couple of subsequent references, were as follows:
“They say I have the most loyal people—did you ever see that?—where I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters.”
Someone or other had commented on the loyalty of Trump’s supporters, and illustrated the comment, and Trump liked what he heard. He repeated it, with the preface, “They say”.
Subsequently it’s true he ommitted the ‘they say,’ preface. Perhaps by then he thought people knew he was referencing someone else’s quote? In any event, he never mentioned shooting anyone in the face.
Also bear in mind that Cruz joked about backing his vehicle up over Trump [which would have the result of either mangling or killing him]. That’s far more specific than Trump’s repetition of a third party’s illustration.
are you really picking at words?
Going from shooting someone in the face to quoting him, as you say, he could shoot somebode...and then claim there is any moral difference between the two statements??
That I am to be disbelieved because of that moral difference??
Your comments are exactly what I have been screaming about, it doesnt matter what truth comes out, trump supporters defend him
do I really have to say stand in the middle of 5th avenue and shoot somebody and all of a sudden it would make you roll your eyes and see the light??
Are you serious???
Biblical level of delusion.
I actually think that you wanted answer to the post above me...but no matter :).
My interest lies in how things are reported and how it is perceived.
The media lies. The simple minded believe them.
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