Posted on 04/22/2016 11:51:18 AM PDT by Mariner
Ted Cruz's campaign produced and released this attack ad overnight, after Donald Trump came out in favor of allowing transgender people to use the bathroom of their choice, rather than the bathroom corresponding to their birth. The Cruz campaign has seized on this issue as a clear indicator that Donald Trump is "not a conservative."
"Leave it the way it is," Trump said. "There have been very few problems."
"Should a grown man pretending to be a woman be allowed to use the women's restroom?" asks the Cruz campaign, calling the bathroom issue "PC Nonsense that is destroying America."
"North Carolina, what they're going through with all the business that's leaving, all of the strife -- and this is on both sides. Leave it the way it is," Trump said at a town hall on NBC's 'Today Show' Thursday. "People go, they use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate."
Cruz has launched an extended media attack campaign against Trump on this issue, doing interviews with his two biggest media backers -- Glenn Beck and Mark Levin -- about the transgender issue Thursday.
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“How about you just answer this:
Should there be laws stopping businesses from restricting men who claim they are women from using their bathrooms?”
And back to my question, again. How would a law like that be enforced??? Who would identify people in the wrong bathrooms? How would they be identified? Say you suspect someone to be the wrong gender - would you call 911??
“Sir, you can’t go in there.”
“There’s a law that says I can! I am a woman!”
And then the business gets fined by the state and civilly sued by the man claiming to be a woman.
Freegards
Now run the same conversation with a law that says they can’t be in the wrong bathroom. You get right back to my questions.
“You will vote for Trump but many Cruz supporters here say they wont. And they do hate Trump.”
Yes Ted should be saying that. But It almost seems like Ted hates Trump too.
It’s cool, I don’t have a problem with Shawn.
If someone wants to go into a bathroom and use it legit, I am fine with that.
If a woman came into our bathroom and said she needs to use it, I’d let her.
Only thing I’m worried about is people going into bathrooms to commit some sort of lewd crime or sexual assault, and that is something that any reasonable person should be concerned with.
But that type of thing happens now. Men commit crimes in the men’s room, men commit crimes in the ladies room, and to be honest, I am not sure if women do that, maybe they do, but I’m not aware of it.
I think that it is wrong to assume right off that transgender people are going to commit crimes as a matter of course. if they do, they they should be dealt with as we deal with any criminal.
I am not sure if males are going to take advantage of this and commit crimes more than already is done, but if they do, then we deal with them as we deal with any criminal.
As long as people are behaving civilly and respectfully in restrooms, I got no problems. I ain’t gonna go out of my way to be mean to someone who doesn’t deserve it.
Hitched yourself to a man that is pro pedophillia, enjoy...!
You know, I do not know, but I would not mind being educated on the subject.
Gotta say, Lyin’ Ted is looking like an opportunist in this matter.
How do you propose to identify and keep them out of the wrong bathroom? Pedophilia is already against the law - and the law doesn’t stop it. Like Apostle Paul said, the law doesn’t contain the power to live it.
How do you do it today? It’s generally not that hard. Regardless it is not acceptable behavior in a civilized society.
The perverts seek to normalize it and Trump is on board with that action. Apparently so are you..
Answer my question first....You support allowing Transgenders in our daughter’s/Wive’s restrooms with the possibility of them being preyed upon because, as you say, “we cannot stop it”?
Say goodnight, Ted.
Anyone can walk in there anytime they want to and victimize anyone they are able to right now everywhere in the world.
They can do this in the ladies room and they can do it in the men’s room. They can do it in the family room and in the dressing room. They can do this in any room. or in the park. Or at the beach.
The criteria for the probability of this happening is not whether someone is a transgender, it’s whether or not they are a criminal.
If people want to open their restrooms to transgender people, I respect that.
If people don’t want to open their restrooms to transgender people, I respect that.
But I don’t want to assume that a person is a violent sex criminal until a person demonstrates that capacity.
Sex criminals come in all shapes, sizes and genders, and they look like people.
[[Further the whole issue is not about cross dressing freaks, but the Law in Charlotte that caused this firestorm was a law which required businesses to allow anyone in any restroom depending on their feelings and not the way they are dressed.]]
Exactly- As I said in a previous post- this isn’t simply abotu transgenders using whatever bathroom they want- bad as that is, but it’s about ANY man/pervert/pedophile/rapist whatever using bathrooms that don’t align with their gender- and we WILL have men hanging out in women’s bathrooms if this law gets passed to allow men to use women’s bathrooms
I just can’t even believe this is even a topic for discussion-
Let’s imagien the tribe of Israel walkign htrough hte wilderness towards the promised land
Moses stops the group, looks up and says “God, This man John here, having full genitalia of a man, who thinks he’s now Jane, wants to use women’s bathrooms, and claims his feelings get hurt because he can’t- Can you maybe advise us what we should do here?
God “Seriously? After all these years with Me you seriously have to ask Me that? Are you fer real? Where’s John who calls himself Jane now? Ah- there he is- ok everyone standing next to him might want to back off- Way off- infact, run for your lives- 5..........4..........3..........
to be continued:
“You support allowing Transgenders in our daughters/Wives restrooms with the possibility of them being preyed upon because, as you say, we cannot stop it?
That’s a fallacious question.
Transgenders are already in the wrong bathrooms - that has been going on as long as there have been bathrooms and transgenders. Anyone who proposes stopping it has the obligation to have a practical and coherent way to actually do it. So how would it be done?
[[Anyone can walk in there anytime they want to and victimize anyone they are able to right now everywhere in the world.]]
Not legally they can’t- a man isn’t allowed i na woman’s bathroom right now- or a locker room, or a shower room or a changing room- and while yesw, they ‘could’ walk in, the likely hood that htey will is much much lower right now because of the law- however, if we allow men into bathrooms- there won’t be any sense of alarm before an attack happens- stripping women of even that basic right of self defense- YES- self defense- as it is now, a man walks into a bathroom, and women are immediately on alert- and will be able to legally call the authorities or security and have hte man removed- IF however, the law states a man can use same bathroom- She is NOT allowed to call and report him until it’s too late-
[[Sex criminals come in all shapes, sizes and genders, and they look like people.]]
That is true- so why the hell would we want ot INCREASE the chances of it happening? Should we be doing everything in our power to prevent it from happening i n the first place?
This is no different than allowing gay boyscout leaders to lead children- everyone said “Nothing’s going to happen’ and ‘we respect their right to lead’, and ‘everyoen is just over-reacting’ Yet gay sexual assaults have icnreased sicne they implemented this new rule-
[[The Oregon Supreme Court, in June 2012, ordered the Boy Scouts to release more than 1,247 confidential files used in a 2010 molestation case. ]]
http://www.abuseandassault.com/Abuse_Boy_Scouts
Gsay rapes are way up in the military sicne don’t ask don’t tell was repealed- That is a faCt- Everyone said hten too owing gay boyscout leaders to lead children- everyone said “Nothing’s going to happen’ and ‘we respect their right to lead’, and ‘everyone is just over-reacting’
You may respect business owners supporting this perverted practice of unisex bathrooms- but many many people do not-
[[But I dont want to assume that a person is a violent sex criminal until a person demonstrates that capacity.]]
The problem is you are referring to individual people- not the group as a whole- the group as a whole HAS demonstrated they are mentally ill- they are perverts, they do cause problems, they do engage in sexual abuse- and remember, we are not just talking about allowing trannies in bathrooms opposite their sex- if men are allowed in you will also have another group- several other groups infact, who HAVE demonstrated a much much higher proclivity to sexual assaults
Again- the goal in society is to reduce the risk that our women and children will be raped, molested, murdered etc- and it behooves us to do everything we can to make sure that groups with a known higher chance of criminal activity aren’t allowed free access to potential victims such as young children -
[[Regardless it is not acceptable behavior in a civilized society.]]
Exactly, and the goal is to KEEP it as unacceptable behavior, and against the law- NOT to invite them to openly practice their perverted behaviors in our bathrooms- and again- the thing most people are ignoring, this isn’t simpyl about allowing sick perverted trannies from using bahtrooms of women and girls, but it’s also about allowing all men to do so- all manner of men- rapists, pedophiles, peeping toms, flashers etc etc etc-
[[The perverts seek to normalize it and Trump is on board with that action. ]]
Exactly, and they criticize those who oppose normalizing this sick behavior
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