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Heidi Cruz Met on Campaign Trail by Superstorm Sandy Protests
Wall Street Journel Blog ^ | April 11, 2016 | Heather Haddon

Posted on 04/12/2016 3:42:44 PM PDT by bobsunshine

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To: FreeReign

Sandy, the storm that saved Obama’s second term election.

That storm is when I knew that God intended for us to be punished with more Obama.


61 posted on 04/12/2016 6:18:44 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Restore Liberty!)
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To: mumblypeg

I highly doubt a company like Walmart has insurance on their products in a particular store. They are big enough to be self insured.


62 posted on 04/12/2016 6:23:45 PM PDT by cornfedcowboy
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To: bobsunshine

Not Yours to Give

by

Colonel David Crockett;

Compiled by Edward S. Ellis

One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose:

“Mr. Speaker—I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as a charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week’s pay to the object, and if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.”

He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, no doubt, it would, but for that speech, it received but few votes, and, of course, was lost.

Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation:

“Several years ago I was one evening standing on the steps of the Capitol with some other members of Congress, when our attention was attracted by a great light over in Georgetown . It was evidently a large fire. We jumped into a hack and drove over as fast as we could. In spite of all that could be done, many houses were burned and many families made homeless, and, besides, some of them had lost all but the clothes they had on. The weather was very cold, and when I saw so many women and children suffering, I felt that something ought to be done for them. The next morning a bill was introduced appropriating $20,000 for their relief. We put aside all other business and rushed it through as soon as it could be done.

“The next summer, when it began to be time to think about the election, I concluded I would take a scout around among the boys of my district. I had no opposition there, but, as the election was some time off, I did not know what might turn up. When riding one day in a part of my district in which I was more of a stranger than any other, I saw a man in a field plowing and coming toward the road. I gauged my gait so that we should meet as he came to the fence. As he came up, I spoke to the man. He replied politely, but, as I thought, rather coldly.

“I began: ‘Well, friend, I am one of those unfortunate beings called candidates, and—’

“’Yes, I know you; you are Colonel Crockett, I have seen you once before, and voted for you the last time you were elected. I suppose you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine. I shall not vote for you again.’

“This was a sockdolager . . . I begged him to tell me what was the matter.

“’Well, Colonel, it is hardly worth-while to waste time or words upon it. I do not see how it can be mended, but you gave a vote last winter which shows that either you have not capacity to understand the Constitution, or that you are wanting in the honesty and firmness to be guided by it. In either case you are not the man to represent me. But I beg your pardon for expressing it in that way. I did not intend to avail myself of the privilege of the constituent to speak plainly to a candidate for the purpose of insulting or wounding you. I intend by it only to say that your understanding of the Constitution is very different from mine; and I will say to you what, but for my rudeness, I should not have said, that I believe you to be honest. . . . But an understanding of the Constitution different from mine I cannot overlook, because the Constitution, to be worth anything, must be held sacred, and rigidly observed in all its provisions. The man who wields power and misinterprets it is the more dangerous the more honest he is.’

“’I admit the truth of all you say, but there must be some mistake about it, for I do not remember that I gave any vote last winter upon any constitutional question.’

“’No, Colonel, there’s no mistake. Though I live here in the backwoods and seldom go from home, I take the papers from Washington and read very carefully all the proceedings of Congress. My papers say that last winter you voted for a bill to appropriate $20,000 to some sufferers by a fire in Georgetown . Is that true?’

“’Well, my friend; I may as well own up. You have got me there. But certainly nobody will complain that a great and rich country like ours should give the insignificant sum of $20,000 to relieve its suffering women and children, particularly with a full and overflowing Treasury, and I am sure, if you had been there, you would have done just as I did.’

“’It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing to do with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be intrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means. What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he. If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give to one, you have the right to give to all; and, as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity, and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity. Individual members may give as much of their own money as they please, but they have no right to touch a dollar of the public money for that purpose. If twice as many houses had been burned in this county as in Georgetown , neither you nor any other member of Congress would have thought of appropriating a dollar for our relief. There are about two hundred and forty members of Congress. If they had shown their sympathy for the sufferers by contributing each one week’s pay, it would have made over $13,000. There are plenty of wealthy men in and around Washington who could have given $20,000 without depriving themselves of even a luxury of life. The congressmen chose to keep their own money, which, if reports be true, some of them spend not very creditably; and the people about Washington , no doubt, applauded you for relieving them from the necessity of giving by giving what was not yours to give. The people have delegated to Congress, by the Constitution, the power to do certain things. To do these, it is authorized to collect and pay moneys, and for nothing else. Everything beyond this is usurpation, and a violation of the Constitution.

“’So you see, Colonel, you have violated the Constitution in what I consider a vital point. It is a precedent fraught with danger to the country, for when Congress once begins to stretch its power beyond the limits of the Constitution, there is no limit to it, and no security for the people. I have no doubt you acted honestly, but that does not make it any better, except as far as you are personally concerned, and you see that I cannot vote for you.’

“I tell you I felt streaked. I saw if I should have opposition, and this man should go to talking, he would set others to talking, and in that district I was a gone fawn-skin. I could not answer him, and the fact is, I was so fully convinced that he was right, I did not want to. But I must satisfy him, and I said to him:

“’Well, my friend, you hit the nail upon the head when you said I had not sense enough to understand the Constitution. I intended to be guided by it, and thought I had studied it fully. I have heard many speeches in Congress about the powers of Congress, but what you have said here at your plow has got more hard, sound sense in it than all the fine speeches I ever heard. If I had ever taken the view of it that you have, I would have put my head into the fire before I would have given that vote; and if you will forgive me and vote for me again, if I ever vote for another unconstitutional law I wish I may be shot.’

“He laughingly replied: ‘Yes, Colonel, you have sworn to that once before, but I will trust you again upon one condition. You say that you are convinced that your vote was wrong. Your acknowledgment of it will do more good than beating you for it. If, as you go around the district, you will tell people about this vote, and that you are satisfied it was wrong, I will not only vote for you, but will do what I can to keep down opposition, and, perhaps, I may exert some little influence in that way.’

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“’If I don’t,’ said I, ‘I wish I may be shot; and to convince you that I am in earnest in what I say I will come back this way in a week or ten days, and if you will get up a gathering of the people, I will make a speech to them. Get up a barbecue, and I will pay for it.’

“’No, Colonel, we are not rich people in this section, but we have plenty of provisions to contribute for a barbecue, and some to spare for those who have none. The push of crops will be over in a few days, and we can then afford a day for a barbecue. This is Thursday; I will see to getting it up on Saturday week. Come to my house on Friday, and we will go together, and I promise you a very respectable crowd to see and hear you.’

“’Well, I will be here. But one thing more before I say good-by. I must know your name.’

“’My name is Bunce.’

“’Not Horatio Bunce?’

“’Yes.’

“’Well, Mr. Bunce, I never saw you before, though you say you have seen me, but I know you very well. I am glad I have met you, and very proud that I may hope to have you for my friend.’

“It was one of the luckiest hits of my life that I met him. He mingled but little with the public, but was widely known for his remarkable intelligence and incorruptible integrity, and for a heart brimful and running over with kindness and benevolence, which showed themselves not only in words but in acts. He was the oracle of the whole country around him, and his fame had extended far beyond the circle of his immediate acquaintance. Though I had never met him before, I had heard much of him, and but for this meeting it is very likely I should have had opposition, and had been beaten. One thing is very certain, no man could now stand up in that district under such a vote.

“At the appointed time I was at his house, having told our conversation to every crowd I had met, and to every man I stayed all night with, and I found that it gave the people an interest and a confidence in me stronger than I had every seen manifested before.

“Though I was considerably fatigued when I reached his house, and, under ordinary circumstances, should have gone early to bed, I kept him up until midnight, talking about the principles and affairs of government, and got more real, true knowledge of them than I had got all my life before.

“I have known and seen much of him since, for I respect him—no, that is not the word—I reverence and love him more than any living man, and I go to see him two or three times every year; and I will tell you, sir, if every one who professes to be a Christian lived and acted and enjoyed it as he does, the religion of Christ would take the world by storm.

“But to return to my story. The next morning we went to the barbecue, and, to my surprise, found about a thousand men there. I met a good many whom I had not known before, and they and my friend introduced me around until I had got pretty well acquainted—at least, they all knew me.

“In due time notice was given that I would speak to them. They gathered up around a stand that had been erected. I opened my speech by saying:

“’Fellow-citizens—I present myself before you today feeling like a new man. My eyes have lately been opened to truths which ignorance or prejudice, or both, had heretofore hidden from my view. I feel that I can today offer you the ability to render you more valuable service than I have ever been able to render before. I am here today more for the purpose of acknowledging my error than to seek your votes. That I should make this acknowledgment is due to myself as well as to you. Whether you will vote for me is a matter for your consideration only.’

“I went on to tell them about the fire and my vote for the appropriation and then told them why I was satisfied it was wrong. I closed by saying:

“’And now, fellow-citizens, it remains only for me to tell you that the most of the speech you have listened to with so much interest was simply a repetition of the arguments by which your neighbor, Mr. Bunce, convinced me of my error.

“’It is the best speech I ever made in my life, but he is entitled to the credit for it. And now I hope he is satisfied with his convert and that he will get up here and tell you so.’

“He came upon the stand and said:

“’Fellow-citizens—It affords me great pleasure to comply with the request of Colonel Crockett. I have always considered him a thoroughly honest man, and I am satisfied that he will faithfully perform all that he has promised you today.’

“He went down, and there went up from that crowd such a shout for Davy Crockett as his name never called forth before.

“I am not much given to tears, but I was taken with a choking then and felt some big drops rolling down my cheeks. And I tell you now that the remembrance of those few words spoken by such a man, and the honest, hearty shout they produced, is worth more to me than all the honors I have received and all the reputation I have ever made, or ever shall make, as a member of Congress.

“Now, sir,” concluded Crockett, “you know why I made that speech yesterday.

“There is one thing now to which I will call your attention. You remember that I proposed to give a week’s pay. There are in that House many very wealthy men—men who think nothing of spending a week’s pay, or a dozen of them, for a dinner or a wine party when they have something to accomplish by it. Some of those same men made beautiful speeches upon the great debt of gratitude which the country owed the deceased—a debt which could not be paid by money—and the insignificance and worthlessness of money, particularly so insignificant a sum as $10,000, when weighted against the honor of the nation. Yet not one of them responded to my proposition. Money with them is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it.”

http://www.constitutionparty.com/assets/Brochure-Not-Yours-To-Give-Generic2.pdf


63 posted on 04/12/2016 6:47:02 PM PDT by sdpatriot
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To: napscoordinator

“Cruz supported BLM and other thugs and made that very clear in Chicago.”

I will still vote for Trump in November if he gets the nomination, but not because of the Trump devotees on Free Republic. It will be in spite of you.

You just can’t stop spreading lies even when they have been called out and exposed repeatedly. It’s filthy and disgusting.

Ted Cruz DID NOT support Black Lives Matter in Chicago. He criticized Trump. He also pointed out BLM is wrong, along with the other protestors.

Contrary to your lies about Cruz, here are the things he has said about BLM:

“If you look at the Black Lives Matter movement, one of the most disturbing things is more than one of their protests have embraced rabid rhetoric, rabid anti-police language, literally suggesting and embracing and celebrating the murder of police officers. That is disgraceful.”

http://www.allenbwest.com/michellejesse/ted-cruz-makes-bold-statement-about-black-lives-matter-liberals-outraged

“The responsibility of that lies with the protestors who took violence into their own hands.” (Speaking about the BLM and other protestors at Trump’s rallies.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmxBp4IFe_I

More here about what Cruz really said:

http://spectator.org/blog/64747/how-ted-cruz-would-have-handled-heckler-black-lives-matter-differently-donald-trump

The problem with Trump devotees is that no one can have the slightest criticism of their hero without somehow being the enemy. This slavish devotion would be merely disgusting if it was not so terribly dangerous.

I have criticisms of Trump and Cruz. I do not pledge my loyalty to either or the party. I am committed to conservative principles. If a candidate or leader sticks to them, he will not be criticized by me. If he does not stick with the principles, he will be criticized.

I disagree with Cruz on the level of blame he directed at Trump for the tone of his campaign. His comments have some validity. But Trump’s “tone” was a minor, tactical error. The BLM and Ayer’s type mobs deserve to be put down in the worst way. They need to be rounded up and put in prison where they belong. Trump was deprived of his first amendment rights. But none of what Cruz said represents him “supporting” BLM. That’s a bold faced lie you keep spreading.

Trump and his devotees have been smearing Cruz for months. If it were not for that, Trump would have won the nomination. It was his choice. He made the wrong one. If he had just stuck to why he was the better candidate, he could have won already.

The Cruz haters have been piling on for months now. They’ve directed much more vitriol at Cruz than at Hillary or Obama. Looks like a bunch of Planned Parenthood reps out to get their number one enemy, rather than conservative patriots. They’ve also been predicting the demise of Cruz since before Iowa. “He’s done. He’s finished. It’s all over for Cruz.” I’ve heard it almost every day. It’s stupid. And now that they have nearly run out of steam for all the nasty accusations and filthy lies hurled at him, they whine because he ought to be a good sport and bow out for the good of Trump... err you meant good of the country (as apparently Trump devotees see absolutely no difference).

How about... NO.

If Trump and his devotees cannot extend an olive branch to Cruz and his millions of supporters, then they can expect to lose. Period.


64 posted on 04/12/2016 6:48:50 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: bobsunshine
New York victims of the 2012 storm object to Ted Cruz's vote against relief funds.

I stand with Ted Cruz on this one. It is not the role of the federal government to bail out underinsured beachfront property owners.

65 posted on 04/12/2016 6:56:28 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: NIKK
“New York, I will Cherish you” “I will protect you.” “I am the only one who will help you . . .

. . . with other people's money. Spoken like a true Democrat.

66 posted on 04/12/2016 6:58:09 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: unlearner
If Trump and his devotees cannot extend an olive branch to Cruz and his millions of supporters, then they can expect to lose.

As you and I both know, Trump will be the nominee and cheating lyin Cruz will be fishin' with jeb.

67 posted on 04/12/2016 6:58:41 PM PDT by Mr Apple (http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/2016/04/ted-cruz-exposed-with-pants-down.html)
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To: GraceG
My god, everyone thinks that the federal government is there to bail their asses out of every little natural disaster

Not everyone. Just the ones supporting the Democrat.

68 posted on 04/12/2016 7:04:20 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: bobsunshine
The problem is Cruz was making a point at the expense of the victims.

Uh, no. Cruz was making a point to save the expense of the taxpayer. It is not government's job to bail out people who made bad decisions.

69 posted on 04/12/2016 7:16:36 PM PDT by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: bobsunshine

Maybe he did it because there was too much pork in the bill, and maybe the government shouldn’t be responsible for every disaster.

That’s why we buy insurance.


70 posted on 04/12/2016 7:17:29 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: Mr Apple

“Trump will be the nominee”

If he is the nominee, I will vote for him. Same goes for Cruz.

Unfortunately, NEITHER can win unless they can unite the base which is very divided right now.

To me, the best shot at doing this is a Trump-Cruz ticket.

All the vitriol directed at Cruz by Trump supporters is stupid. Same goes for the hatred directed at Cruz supporters. Trump cannot win without them.

Both Trump and Cruz have a lot of flaws. None of their flaws even remotely compare to those of Sanders or Clinton or Obama.


71 posted on 04/12/2016 7:17:30 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: HarleyLady27

Perhaps you could clarify that?


72 posted on 04/12/2016 7:18:30 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: tumblindice

That’s ridiculous.


73 posted on 04/12/2016 7:19:57 PM PDT by altura (Cruz for our country)
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To: ConservativeMind

So first you called people crybabies and now I’m a “louse”. Have a nice evening.


74 posted on 04/12/2016 7:22:43 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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To: Iowa David
Apparently Ted hides behind women, like with Snarly Fiorina protecting him from questions about affairs, and now behind his wife, who currently makes approximately three times his annual income.

There do exist rumors that Heidi has OK'd Ted's sleeping around, hence it is not considered "cheating" as it is done with her consent.

75 posted on 04/12/2016 7:25:40 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: bobsunshine

A perfect example of NE libs dissing a politician who believes one does not always hand out taxpayer money that does not exist.


76 posted on 04/12/2016 7:26:45 PM PDT by doldrumsforgop
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To: Williams

Never said anything about crying, but if the hair follicle fits, egg it up.

By the way, pay my bills.


77 posted on 04/12/2016 7:28:23 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: Hoodat
Uh, no. Cruz was making a point to save the expense of the taxpayer. It is not government's job to bail out people who made bad decisions.

Heidi -- who was the topic of this thread, remember? -- works for Goldman Sucks.

*crickets*

78 posted on 04/12/2016 7:29:01 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Let me guess. You heard that on the Internet.
79 posted on 04/12/2016 7:30:27 PM PDT by Iowa David (Cruz 2016 - Before it's too late)
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To: ConservativeMind

Give me your address so I can put a check in the mail.

Cruz may have been right on the bill, I’m sure it looked great from Texas but you’re going to get booed in New York, what with their New York Values and all. That’s politics, and Cruz is having a very bad vacation in New York.


80 posted on 04/12/2016 7:31:13 PM PDT by Williams (Dear God, please save us from the Democrats. And the Republicans.)
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