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How do Pa. GOP delegates pick a candidate? (wide open to GOPe/Ted treachery!!!)
.ydr.com ^ | EDT April 4, 2016 | Flint L. McColgan and Ed Mahon,

Posted on 04/12/2016 11:48:23 AM PDT by dennisw

Edited on 04/12/2016 11:56:09 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: gannett; pa2016; trumptroll; usatoday
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To: nclaurel

Likeable enough?


101 posted on 04/12/2016 4:08:08 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: for-q-clinton

Trump gave them money because at the same time he was on Fox News pushing amnesty.

http://therightscoop.com/2012-trump-on-illegals-we-have-to-have-some-compassion-we-cant-just-throw-everybody-out/


102 posted on 04/12/2016 4:08:31 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: little jeremiah

Cruz has had no change of heart. He campaigned for Senate on building a border wall, deporting illegals, ending sanctuary cities and increasing the border patrol. Since Obama started the Dream Act, he has opposed it every step of the way.


103 posted on 04/12/2016 4:09:55 PM PDT by JediJones (Looks like those clowns in Congress did it again. What a bunch of clowns.)
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To: JediJones

That was before the illegal crime waves....


104 posted on 04/12/2016 4:12:44 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: JediJones

Yeah he opposed it so much he added a 500percent increase in H1Bs and doubling the number of Syrian Muslims coming in while handing out gift baskets to illegals at the Border with Beck


105 posted on 04/12/2016 4:14:26 PM PDT by Mechanicos (Trump is for America First. Cruz and the Establishment is for America Last. It's that simple.)
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To: dennisw

lol. That would be ironic


106 posted on 04/12/2016 4:17:18 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: for-q-clinton

It’s clear you’re not going to support Trump even if he wins the nomination.


107 posted on 04/12/2016 4:18:17 PM PDT by boycott (--s)
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To: JediJones

Well ok we can just be likeable enough. We won’t push all the way to likeable :-)


108 posted on 04/12/2016 4:31:10 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: little jeremiah

You said everyone that did illegal things wouldn’t be allowed back. So I’m confused. You’re the one with word games.


109 posted on 04/12/2016 4:31:41 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: little jeremiah

Oh come one...there is only one or two things I disagree with him on...that’s pretty damn good in my book.

I think he wanted to use TPA do deals he thinks were “right”. TPA and TPP are two different things. He was for one but not the other.

But regardless he was spot on for stopping the Trump funded gang of 8.


110 posted on 04/12/2016 4:32:49 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: JediJones

That must have been before he needed the dummies to vote for him.


111 posted on 04/12/2016 4:33:33 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: boycott

no actually I will over Hillary.


112 posted on 04/12/2016 4:33:49 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: Fai Mao

Playing by the rules is not stealing. What Trump is trying to do is stealing via intimidation. He is a sore loser. He didn’t even show up in the state of Colorado. Cruz was actually there. Cruz had a ground game. Trump the deal maker didn’t even know the rules, his team made tons of stupid mistakes, and yet he cries when he loses. Of course he lost. He had no idea what he was doing and failed to hire that top notch team he keeps promising. Imagine what will happen when he tries these lovely skills on the world stage.

He has more delegates overall than the vote percentages warrant. The system has advantaged him, yet he only gripes when he loses. He is the new Al Gore.


113 posted on 04/12/2016 5:24:25 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: for-q-clinton

The TPA gave the president authority over trade deals. Without the TPA, the TPP would not have been able to be voted on. So you are naturally dead wrong. Your guy is a globalist liar.


114 posted on 04/12/2016 5:49:56 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: little jeremiah

Huh? I said he backed TPA but not TPP. What part of that doesn’t jive with what you stated?

Geez. I’m just asking...are you one of the uneducated people that Trump loves so much?


115 posted on 04/12/2016 5:51:30 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Playing by the rules is stealing when the rules are designed to limit participation and make it difficult for those new to the process or who are not favored by the establishment to participate. In Colorado that is exactly what happened.

The Colorado convention also used to hold a straw poll before the delegates were chosen that was non-binding but allow the crowd to see the general feelings of those there. The national GOP told Colorado they can’t do that and that if they took a vote at the convention it had to count. If it were me receiving that admonition I’d have said “We need to hold a primary or regular caucus rather than this weird convention thing. Instead they simply eliminated even the semblance of a vote. How can anyone in a representative republic agree with that?

That the party chairman tweeting “#NeverTrump: We did it” just minutes after the convention means there was NEVER chance that Mr Trump would get a delegate. This convention was rigged. I’d actually like to see the actual ballots. When he makes statements like that how do we know that the count wasn’t adjusted? Doesn’t it seem strange to you that not even ONE SINGLE Trump supporter was elected? The chairman tried to claim his account was hacked but that has been shown to not be true. His tweet shows that he was not representing the party but was just an activist “fixer” for Cruz. That means he was going to try to give every delegate to Cruz even if if person in the state voted for Trump.

Even if all of the above was pure innocent coincidence sleazy rules are the domain of thieves. Colorado has sleazy rule and the party bosses look like thieves and they deserve it for allowing sleazy rules to exist.

You can protest “But those were the rules” all you want it looks like theft. To make the case that what happened in Colorado was just “The rule” really makes you look Al Gore calling for endless recounts in Florida. He espoused noble intent too. Can you really not see how bad it looks? When the rules are bad the statement “Its the rules” is not morally justifiable.

The state of Colorado had an entire year to reform the process and instead holding a caucus or primary they eliminated the vote.

And

Iowa - telling caucus goes that Carson had suspended his campaign wasn’t against the rules

Sending out threatening fake voter registration letters wasn’t against the rules either

Using parliamentary tricks get unpledged delegates in Louisiana to all go for Cruz despite having resoundingly lost the state was also not against the rules.

Trying to effectively overturn the election in states by obscure parliamentary machination is neither ethical nor the mark of a “consistent Constitutional conservative”

None of these tricks will work in the general election.

Mr Cruz is in the process of alienating 30% to 40% of the Republican base. That should concern Cruz supporters very much.


116 posted on 04/12/2016 5:54:28 PM PDT by Fai Mao
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To: for-q-clinton

Senator Ted Cruz’s statement that he “always opposed TPP” is incorrect. He and Representative Paul Ryan co-authored an April 21, 2015 op-ed in the Wall Street Journal (Putting Congress in Charge on Trade) in which they both supported fast-tracking TPP (the Trans Pacific Partnership). Cruz was also incorrect when he implied that TPA is separate from TPP. TPA (Trade Promotion Authority) was the “fast-track” bill that gave up Congress’s right to amend or filibuster TPP and which reduced the number of votes required to pass TPP from two thirds of the Senate to a simple majority in each chamber.

Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2016/03/cruz_lied_in_thursdays_debate_about_his_previous_support_for_tpp.html#ixzz45fDbMf1N


117 posted on 04/12/2016 5:55:59 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: little jeremiah
The TPA gave the president authority over trade deals.

The president has always had the authority to negotiate trade deals. What TPA has done for the past 40 years is set out the guidelines Congress expects the president to follow. If he follows those guidelines, then the deal gets an up or down vote. If he doesn't, the deal can be amended, filibustered, etc. Every president since Ford has had TPA...

TPP would have been voted on whether TPA was in effect or not. And if either house of Congress determined that the president did not follow the guidelines laid out in TPA, either one could have voided the Fast Track authority for TPP.

You have no idea what you are talking about - you are just repeating your Trumpkin talking points.

118 posted on 04/12/2016 5:56:34 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Duchess47

Ok I never agreed with Cruz on his trade policy. The good news is he listened to me and changed his position. As a Trump supporter I’m sure you can appreciate someone changing positions. Cruz may not change as often and as much as Trump but he does change.


119 posted on 04/12/2016 5:57:20 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: CA Conservative

I read obsessively about the TPA and TPP. Not on Trumpkin sites, whatever they are.

You Cruzfanbois can tie youreslf into knots if you like, but you don’t fool normal people.


120 posted on 04/12/2016 6:11:27 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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