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Clinton ties New York violence to Vermont guns in critique of Sanders
The Guardian ^ | April 11, 2016 | Jamiles Lartey

Posted on 04/11/2016 4:47:37 PM PDT by McGruff

Hillary Clinton continued to put heat on Bernie Sanders on Monday for what she described as his failure to challenge the national gun lobby or to support what she called a “commonsense agenda” on gun control.

“Most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in New York come from out of state. And the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York” is Vermont, Clinton said at a panel on gun violence prevention in New York.

Ahead of New York’s primary on 19 April, Clinton sat down with Democratic congressman Steve Israel and five women who have been affected by gun violence. She addressed an enthusiastic crowd about her plan for improved background checks and stronger anti-trafficking laws before turning the microphone over to the panellists. Clinton called the women “some of the most courageous and persistent voices you could hear anywhere”, noting how intimidating the gun lobby can be to people who agitate for gun control.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York; US: Vermont
KEYWORDS: banglist; hillary2016
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So Bernie's running guns over the border?
1 posted on 04/11/2016 4:47:37 PM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

I really, really hate that woman.


2 posted on 04/11/2016 4:49:22 PM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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Why on Earth would any thug from NYC drive 300 miles to Burlington when they have their own underground manufacturers and Muslim arms dealers all over the city? Liberal logic astounds me.


3 posted on 04/11/2016 4:52:12 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: McGruff

Democratic voters committing crimes that NRA members won’t commit


4 posted on 04/11/2016 4:52:37 PM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Bingo. You go to the inner cities and get whatever guns you want. The good ones.


5 posted on 04/11/2016 4:53:39 PM PDT by McGruff (Trump is entertaining, but I will win Republican nomination - Jeb Bush)
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To: McGruff
Most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in New York come from out of state.

Most of the drugs sold there that fuels the violence probably come from out of state. Bring manufacturing back to NY!

6 posted on 04/11/2016 4:57:45 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: McGruff

Goodness, Vermont must be near the top in violent crime statistics.

Actually they are always among the bottom.


7 posted on 04/11/2016 4:59:25 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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The question I always have when this cross-border gun availability canard is raised by the left is: If it is simply the availability of guns in state X (Vermont in this case) that leads to gun crime, then why isn't state X experiencing an elevated level of firearms-related crime?

If I am not mistaken; Vermont has one of lowest statewide crime rates in the country. Gun violence is primarily a function of demographics and much less about the availability of legal firearms.

8 posted on 04/11/2016 5:01:23 PM PDT by American Infidel (Instead of vilifying success, try to emulate it)
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To: McGruff

Bernie Sanders, the Leland Yee of Vermont !

How come crime in all these big blue cities is the fault of the gun laws in some other state ?

It’s never what people in NY are doing or not doing.


9 posted on 04/11/2016 5:11:51 PM PDT by Reverend Wright (Illegal immigrants: Arrest, Intern, Deport)
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But, wait! A few years ago they were blaming GEORGIA for all those out of state guns! “The Iron Pipeline” they called it.


10 posted on 04/11/2016 5:16:10 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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Vermont has one of lowest statewide crime rates in the country.

That's more with Vermont being a homogeneous people. No gibsmedats or third-worlders infesting the state.

11 posted on 04/11/2016 5:19:10 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Rafael Cruz: Canadian-born, Cuban ancestry, ineligible for POTUS)
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That's more with Vermont being a homogeneous people. No gibsmedats or third-worlders infesting the state.

I'm sure Obama's working on that little homogeneity problem.

12 posted on 04/11/2016 5:24:11 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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That's more with Vermont being a homogeneous people. No gibsmedats or third-worlders infesting the state.

I'm sure Obama's working on that little homogeneity problem.

13 posted on 04/11/2016 5:24:11 PM PDT by NewHampshireDuo
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.. the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in New York” is Vermont, Clinton said...

Gee.wonder why Vermont doesn’t have the high percentage of gun crimes that New York has?


14 posted on 04/11/2016 5:26:38 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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To: Objective Scrutator

You can see videos on youtube about how to make an AK 47 out of a shovel that uses the shovel handle as a stock.


15 posted on 04/11/2016 5:29:07 PM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prosecution 2016)
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hillarity running fast and loose with the facts. Again. LOL

https://www.atf.gov/about/docs/report/new-york-firearms-trace-data-%E2%80%93-2014/download


16 posted on 04/11/2016 5:30:35 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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Mrs Clinton, NY’s SAFE law requires registration of common rifles; compliance rate is 4%. How do you propose implementing gun control laws when 96% of otherwise law abiding gun owners say “he11 no!”?


17 posted on 04/11/2016 5:31:12 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ("Get the he11 out of my way!" - John Galt)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Not entirely true. VT has some of the most liberal social welfare systems in the country. During the Clinton years VT was the only state that opted out of most of the federal reforms. Welfare leeches find it easier than Mass so they flock here.


18 posted on 04/11/2016 5:32:35 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democratic party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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To: McGruff

The Sanders version of Obonzo’s Fast and Furious. Huff and Puff! Vermonters sending guns to New Yawk so they can kill each other. Wow!


19 posted on 04/11/2016 5:33:51 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (The DNC's Boston Globe really sucks. All the BS about global warming and now more about Trump.)
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To: American Infidel
See the ATF stat map

...in 2014, 55 guns recovered in NY came from VT. 100s more from states like PA, FL, GA, VA

[https://www.atf.gov/about/docs/report/new-york-firearms-trace-data-%E2%80%93-2014/download ]

Alternate title for article: Braindamaged Senior Thinks Guns Commit Crimes.

20 posted on 04/11/2016 5:34:49 PM PDT by Daffynition ("We have the fight of our lives coming up to save our nation!" ~ Jim Robinson)
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