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To: EveningStar

Interpretation?


2 posted on 04/09/2016 9:41:41 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

A contested convention is being touted by the GOPe as a good thing because look, it got us Lincoln! Of course this is a pretty bad analogy as in 1860 the U.S. was on the brink of civil war.


4 posted on 04/09/2016 9:47:25 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Jim 0216

He’s saying that a contested convention is not necessarily a bad thing.


8 posted on 04/09/2016 9:52:03 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Jim 0216

Joke Interpretation:
Contested Convention = Civil War

Serious Interpretation:
Ramirez is alluding to the fact that Lincoln was little favored going into the 1860 Republican Convention and won via backroom deals.


12 posted on 04/09/2016 9:53:44 AM PDT by wizkid
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To: Jim 0216

Lincoln was selected in a brokered convention at the WigWam in Chicago in 1860.


19 posted on 04/09/2016 10:00:04 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Hillary - Ethically sleazy and politically stupid)
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To: Jim 0216

From the time of his death in 1865 to the 200th anniversary of his birth, February 12, 2009, there has never been a decade in which Abraham Lincoln’s influence has not been felt. Yet it has not been a smooth, unfolding history, but a jagged narrative filled with contention and revisionism. Lincoln’s legacy has shifted again and again as different groups have interpreted him. Northerners and Southerners, blacks and whites, East Coast elites and prairie Westerners, liberals and conservatives, the religious and secular, scholars and popularizers—all have recalled a sometimes startlingly different Lincoln.

He has been lifted up by both sides of the Temperance Movement; invoked for and against federal intervention in the economy; heralded by anti-communists, such as Senator Joseph McCarthy, and by American communists, such as those who joined the Abraham Lincoln Brigade in the fight against the fascist Spanish government in the 1930s. Lincoln has been used to justify support for and against incursions on civil liberties, and has been proclaimed both a true and a false friend to African-Americans. Was he at heart a “progressive man” whose death was an “unspeakable calamity” for African-Americans, as Frederick Douglass insisted in 1865? Or was he “the embodiment...of the American Tradition of racism,” as African-American writer Lerone Bennett Jr. sought to document in a 2000 book?

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/lincolns-contested-legacy-44978351/#EFuy3fbBjT3xcW7R.99


20 posted on 04/09/2016 10:02:26 AM PDT by jessduntno (The mind of a liberal...deceit, desire for control, greed, contradiction and fueled by hate.)
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To: Jim 0216

Ramirez thinks everybody loves Lincoln.


27 posted on 04/09/2016 10:09:26 AM PDT by sparklite2 ( "The white man is the Jew of Liberal Fascism." -Jonah Goldberg)
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To: Jim 0216

Quick and rough interpretation: Under the Presidency of Lincoln was the first fundamental transfer of power from the local and state level to the federal thereby consolidating power where it was never intended to be consolidated. These United States became The United States.

The contested convention could bring about another fundamental change (and not for the good) if the candidate is one who does not care for freedom-based principles.

Refreshed


41 posted on 04/09/2016 10:41:00 AM PDT by refreshed
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To: Jim 0216

Historical truth!


49 posted on 04/09/2016 11:12:45 AM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been Liberal. Hope Changed)
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