Posted on 04/04/2016 6:48:46 AM PDT by xzins
Donald Trump continued his war with party bosses Sunday, once again saying that he wouldn’t rule out a third-party run if he failed to secure the GOP nomination and demanding that rival John Kasich drop out of the race.
“We’re going to have to see how I was treated. I’m going to have to see how I was treated. Very simple,” Trump said on “Fox News Sunday” when asked if he would categorically rule out running as a third-party independent candidate if he failed to win his party’s nomination. “It’s not a question of win or lose. It’s a question of treatment. I want to be treated fair.”
The comments came just days after Trump, Kasich and Ted Cruz backed out of pledges to support the GOP’s eventual nominee. Following the walk-backs, Trump met privately with Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus in an apparent effort to smooth things over, but on Sunday, the hot-and-cold relationship appeared on the verge of fracturing once again.
“Those kinds of comments, I think, have consequences,” Priebus said on ABC’s “This Week” of Trump’s latest remarks. “When you make those kinds of comments, and you want people to fall in line for you, it makes it more difficult.”
In yet another interview, Priebus admitted he wasn’t sure whether he felt the former businessman was the party’s best candidate.
“I don’t know,” Priebus said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “Listen, I don’t worry about who is the strongest candidate.”
Further suggesting Trump was undeterred by the criticism were demands he made during a rally in Wisconsin — whose pivotal primary on Tuesday will put for up grabs another 96 delegates — that Kasich drop out of the GOP race.
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God forbid we have a frugal president. Lord you liberals kill me.
Every time Cruz wins a primary? Lol. He’s done it 3 times. So you are exaggerating a lot!!!!
No conservative base/Tea Party or their allies would have ever given one hundred thousand dollars to the Clinton Foundation....and given a guy like Ted Cruz only five thousand dollars.
NEVER HAPPEN.
I like what Donny the Demonrat Donor has done is some cases. And up until 2 or 3 weeks ago it was amusing and somewhat helpful to the cause.
Now...it is not. It is time for the interloper to go. The clown car has crashed. It's over.
Time to get to work saving the nation.
Join the hunt.
JEDI.
Well Bye!
I think there is another path here. Why I think that is that I read the transcript of last week’s Bob Woodward sit-down interview with Trump. Based on that, here’s how my opinion has evolved:
Trump does NOT need to win 1,237 delegates by the convention.
Let me repeat.
Trump does NOT need to win 1,237 delegates by the convention.
Does he need 1,237 delegates to win? Yes.
My opinion is that Trump will take Kasich as his VP choice.
If he does that, then Trump is assured of controlling 1,237+ delegates when he himself gets to approximately 1,093 delegates. Trump getting over 1,100 delegates is a lock, in my view.
When this deal is announced will be sometime in May, before the California primary on June 7, but after Trump cleans Cruz’ clock in the Northeastern states.
Why Kasich?
The transcript tells the tale.
The question posed regarded what Trump looked for in a VP.
The factors Trump is looking for (from the transcript):
1. Could make a good President.
2. Help Trump get elected. (I’m reading that nomination and general election)
3. Experience with the House and Senate (25 years experience).
4. Political person (not an outsider/businessman, etc.).
5. Friendly relationships with House and Senate.
6. Can get things done.
Kasich can meet all these criteria.
1. Good President? I suppose - better than any Democrat. Will call that a Yes.
2a. Help Trump get the nomination? Yes. He has 144 delegates.
2b. Help Trump win the general? Yes, he can deliver OH.
3. 25 years experience with House and Senate? No and Yes. 18 years Congress plus 6 years to date as Governor puts him close enough for rounding error.
4. Political person? Yes. Former member of Congress and a sitting Governor.
5. Friendly relations with Congress? Yes. Definitely not loathed in Congress like Cruz.
6. Can get things done? Yes. He was Budget Committee chairman the last time the Federal Government ran a budget surplus. Also has 18 years experience on the Armed Services Committee.
So what about Cruz? Can he do that? No. I don’t think there’s an ice cube’s chance in heck that Cruz can obtain 1,093 delegates on his own.
In my opinion, Trump does the deal and wins this before the Convention.
Again, so what options does Cruz have? Easy. If he wants a chance at SCOTUS, he needs to behave.
From the transcript, Trump is working with the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation to assemble a list of 10-12 judge candidates that will be published so that the GOP voters can see that Trump will put forward conservative SCOTUS nominees. Whether Cruz’ name gets on that list is totally up to him.
My 2 cents.
Well, maybe a cent and a half.
OK, my 1 cent!
Summary:
Blah blah blah.
Logical fallacy: NO U.
Cruzies be like ‘WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!’
Blah blah blah.
Still an F.
“If he’s not treated fairly (in my opinion), and if he has a solid plan to win ELECTORAL votes, then I will support Trump in a 3rd party run.”
Same here. It’s been Trump v. Everyone since he started winning.
The resident GOP-e toads/`Count Dracula as Pan’ supporters (but I repeat myself), are conflating winning the delegate count with fair treatment.
Trump hasn’t been treated fairly since Iowa; to the contrary, he signed a paper that the GOP establishment insisted he sign, and he signed—on condition of fair and equal treatment—then they immediately started breaking the agreement.
Whatever happens, they go the way of the Whigs. This is their gotterdamerung but we will all pay the price and they don’t give a damn, as long as they hang on to their job prerequisites and emoluments for a while longer.
If he’s not treated fairly (in my opinion), and if he has a solid plan to win ELECTORAL votes, then I will support Trump in a 3rd party run.
It’s simple really. If a bunch of “Trump” delegates change their vote on a second ballot Trump will just pull out his phone and hit the GOP destruct button. RIP GOP. Cruz and the rest of the GOPe playing with fire by inserting stealth delegates in the Trump camp will burn them badly.
Respectfully, may I ask why you think Perot didn’t choose wisely?
Drink up that koolaid. Yes, fairness has nothing to do with anything else other than 1237. Nevermind, the delegate thievery. Oh, before you give me the sophomoric “thems is the rules” mantra, do not bother. I know firsthand it is unadulterated BS. In fact, it is this very type of BS that had brought many to the loathing of the feckless, complicit GOPe and - likewise - Ted Bendover Fraud Cruz. GO TRUMP or GTH so-called GOP!
Drink up that koolaid. Yes, fairness has nothing to do with anything else other than 1237. Nevermind, the delegate thievery. Oh, before you give me the sophomoric “thems is the rules” mantra, do not bother. I know firsthand it is unadulterated BS. In fact, it is this very type of BS that had brought many to the loathing of the feckless, complicit GOPe and - likewise - Ted Bendover Fraud Cruz. GO TRUMP or GTH so-called GOP!
It’s not just “the rule”. Ted Cruz himself is saying “We must respect the will of the voters”. How is Cruz packing Trump delegations with stealth Cruz supporters “respecting the will of the voters”?
I can only conclude Ted Cruz is a double dealing dirt bag saying one thing in public while doing the complete opposite in private. Nothing principled or conservative about him.
The scene from “Ruthless People” comes to mind :-)
Let him and his 30% approval rating walk. Addition by subtraction in my mind. Most of his supporters are not republicans anyway, that’s why he only wins in open primaries. You can’t alienate every single vote bloc except low educated, bar stool white men and win a national election. The Trumpkins will follow him through hell, but 30% doesn’t win you much.
If he is the nominee the GOP loses in an historic landslide, and probably loses the Senate, maybe the House and who knows how many state races. I think this what many on this site who support him want. For years they have been b*tching about the party and calling for its destruction and they see Trump as the sledgehammer to use to make that happen. You know who you are.
Bottom line he will pull as many lifetime democrat blue collar workers from Hillary as he will true republican and independents from the GOP candidate.
I wish the GOP leaders would grow a pair and call his bluff. That’s how you deal with a childish bully. When you do they usually run home crying to mommy.
I would vote trump for a 3rd party run if neither Trump or Cruz gets the nomination. If Trump is leading Cruz by over 20% in delegates and they try to give it to Cruz I will vote for Trump as a 3rd party candidate. Even if Trump backs out and does not run after a stolen convention , I will write him in.
The Republican party is dead. We are seeing the death throws and last twitching. Inexorably split between the Libertarian and the dominionist wings.
Whatever the rules were as of when New Hampshire primary took place should be the rules they go by. If they do, then they were fair regarding the rules. If they do not, then they lacked integrity.
There are other issues such as having the party attacking its own nominees that I’ve not yet brought under the framework of integrity.
I am certain, though, that if any other organizational bureaucracy were attacking its own leaders, we’d be wanting to know all the details on that to determine if it were justified or not.
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