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Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Donald Trump’s Bid [Hillary Beating Trump Even In Utah!!]
NYTimes ^ | April 02, 2016 | JONATHAN MARTIN and NATE COHN

Posted on 04/02/2016 9:20:46 PM PDT by Steelfish

Electoral Map Is a Reality Check to Donald Trump’s Bid By JONATHAN MARTIN and NATE COHN APRIL 2, 2016

Donald J. Trump is so negatively viewed, polls suggest, that he could turn otherwise safe Republican states into tight contests. Credit Eric Thayer for The New York Times

Donald J. Trump’s presidential candidacy has stunned the Republican Party. But if he survives a late revolt by his rivals and other leaders to become the party’s standard-bearer in the general election, the electoral map now coming into view is positively forbidding.

In recent head-to-head polls with one Democrat whom Mr. Trump may face in the fall, Hillary Clinton, he trails in every key state, including Florida and Ohio, despite her soaring unpopularity ratings with swing voters.

In Democratic-leaning states across the Rust Belt, which Mr. Trump has vowed to return to the Republican column for the first time in nearly 30 years, his deficit is even worse: Mrs. Clinton leads him by double digits in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania.

Mr. Trump is so negatively viewed, polls suggest, that he could turn otherwise safe Republican states, usually political afterthoughts because of their strong conservative tilt, into tight contests. In Utah, his deep unpopularity with Mormon voters suggests that a state that has gone Republican every election for a half-century could wind up in play. Republicans there pointed to a much-discussed Deseret News poll last month, showing Mrs. Clinton with a narrow lead over Mr. Trump, to argue that the state would be difficult for him.

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To: Paradox
>>>Trump loses to Hillary, whereas Cruz is about even<<<

I know of no States in play for Cruz that went for Obama in 2012, not a one. I believe that Trump could garner some including Michigan and New York. Just supposition at this point, but Trump has a broader appeal like it or not.

It pains me to say it, but we are playing the Electoral College Game and that's all that matters.

As Republicans we surrender at least 200 Electoral Votes long before Election Day.

If you have a list of States that will propel Cruz to the promised land in the General Election, please list them.

81 posted on 04/02/2016 11:48:10 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (There is nothing Democratic about the Democrat Party. (Or the GOPe))
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To: Steelfish

Cruz as shown ZERO crossover appeal, that’s why Cruzdavidians hate ‘open primaries’, but somehow that will all turn around in the general election. Yeah met right


82 posted on 04/02/2016 11:58:30 PM PDT by heights
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To: Steelfish

Trumps wins in a very fractured primary and collapses when the field winnows down.

In Steelfish world a “fractured Primary” is one where its open to Democrats and Independents. Come back in the last week of April, Trump is going to kick Cruz’s a** to the Curb, Big Time.


83 posted on 04/03/2016 12:05:29 AM PDT by heights
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To: JPX2011

Our country is dead no matter what. We have the breathing machines keeping us going but one day soon even they will conk out.


84 posted on 04/03/2016 1:02:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Steelfish

Reagan was also getting killed by Carter at this point in 1980. So what!


85 posted on 04/03/2016 1:11:15 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: Steelfish

I dread losing the election to Clinton in a potential landslide with Trump as the nominee, but I’d be lying if I didn’t admit that I’m also morbidly curious about what the aftermath will be like here. Will Trump supporters finally come to terms with reality or continue to delude themselves?


86 posted on 04/03/2016 3:08:39 AM PDT by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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To: Steelfish

Every time a RINO like McCain, or Romney, get the nomination they lose by a LOT.

Let’s hope RINO Donald Trump doesn’t get the nomination; otherwise, we will have a president hillary.


87 posted on 04/03/2016 3:24:22 AM PDT by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: Steelfish

Utah’s been goofy ever since 2012.

It’s the headquarters of Romney astro-turf.


88 posted on 04/03/2016 4:00:37 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Hoodat

‘By election day, they will have convinced themselves that Trump will win all fifty states.’

And I suppose that all of Cruz’ antics will somehow unify the anti-leftist patriots better than Trump?

Cruz will energize us all right — into forming a new party if this Bravo Sierra keeps up.


89 posted on 04/03/2016 4:02:16 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Obama giving away the internet: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3407691/posts)
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To: Steelfish

Im glad I voted for Trump and will vote for him in Nov.


90 posted on 04/03/2016 4:20:01 AM PDT by rrrod (just an old guy with a gun in his pocket.l)
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To: Steelfish

“If Clinton, the worst the Rats can ever offer is now seen as beating Trump even in the reddest of red states- Utah, Trump supporters must ask themselves “Oh God What Have We Produced”?”

I think they’re rather proud of themselves since their objective was to destroy the Republican party. Winning was never their purpose.


91 posted on 04/03/2016 4:22:18 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Steelfish
Looks like the NYT and other Lefty orgs are now 100% behind Cruz - and his supporters aren't aware of the knives coming out to finish him off if he manages to stop Trump from doing what we all wanted in the first place.

Stupi is as stupid does - who are Y'All gonna blame when Hillary is ensconced in the WH?

92 posted on 04/03/2016 4:32:35 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Steelfish

Yeah. NY Times. Now there’s a source I really, really trust.


93 posted on 04/03/2016 4:42:01 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Steelfish

Yeah and I’m sure Hillary is beating Trump in Alabama is\n their fantasies as well.


94 posted on 04/03/2016 6:45:44 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Kenny
This is such BS. Carter was beating Reagan by 20 points BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY RAN AGAINST EACH OTHER.

Nixon was beating McGovern by about the same number as well.

95 posted on 04/03/2016 6:47:58 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Nifster

And back in the 80’s polls had the predictability based on land lines in every home.


96 posted on 04/03/2016 6:51:34 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: Steelfish

Hillary will be in the NUT HOUSE before the elections.


97 posted on 04/03/2016 6:56:57 AM PDT by jetson
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To: datura

Even in Utah? Oh no!!

In the home of moronism?

Typical Trumpbot bigotry!!! Sad.


98 posted on 04/03/2016 7:42:09 AM PDT by Laserman
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To: Kickass Conservative
It pains me to say it, but we are playing the Electoral College Game and that's all that matters.

Thats a great point. I have yet to say a state by state breakdown of T vs H, and C vs H. polling.

99 posted on 04/03/2016 8:33:40 AM PDT by Paradox (My positions can evolve, but Principles should be immutable.)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I think you most likely get Scott Walker.


100 posted on 04/03/2016 1:41:00 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (The most vocals supporters of a good con man are the victims.)
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