[Responsibility2nd]

Just to be clear - you said that a mother who murders her child is a victim.

You can boast about your track record all you want - but that is one of the most blatantly pro- abortion remarks I’ve seen in a long time.

“The mother is a victim”.

[HiTech RedNeck]

All you care to do is to classify things along a narrow one dimensional continuum.

In what is manifestly a many dimensional reality, your approach earns an F-.

[Antoninus]

Just to be clear - you said that a mother who murders her child is a victim.

Just to be clear, I specifically said: "In many ways, she's also a victim. There will be mitigating circumstances for her."

Have you ever spent any time working with or talking to women who were considering abortion? Based on your statement, I'm guessing not. In many cases, they are being coerced or suffering extreme mental or physical duress. In almost every case, they suffer long-term mental and physical after-effects from the abortion.

But hey, if wanting to outlaw abortion, and still wishing to take care of the mother as well as the baby makes me "pro-abortion" in your mind, then I don't know what to tell you.