Trump names health care and education, security, as the top functions of the federal government

American Thinker ^ | 03/30/2016 | Thomas Lifson

[SeekAndFind]

In a moment that seemed to stun even moderator Anderson Cooper, Donald Trump named federal involvement in education and health care as top functions of the federal government, along with national security, at the Milwaukee candidates forum in Milwaukee last night. Apparently unaware that conservatives believe that a federal role in education is unjustified, and that many, including Ted Cruz, want to abolish the Department of Education, and that federal involvement in health care is anathema to his party’s base, Trump spoke of both as among the top three priorities for the feds.

Putting on his surprised face, Cooper attempted to give Trump a chance to address his base. Shoshana Weissmann of the Weekly Standard describes the debacle:

Anderson Cooper tried to clarify. "So in terms of federal government role, you're saying security, but you also say health care and education should be provided by the federal government?"

Trump replied, "yeah, those are two of the things. Yeah, sure. there are obviously many things, housing, providing great neighborhoods—"

Anderson, confused by Trump's response, asked, "aren't you against the federal government's involvement in education? Don't you want it to devolve to states?"

"I want it to go to state. Absolutely," said Trump, entirely flip-flopping on what he said moments earlier.

Cooper replied, "that's not part of what the federal government's—"

Trump interjected, "the federal government, but the concept of the country is the concept that we have to have education within the country and have to get rid of common core and it should be brought to the state level."

Cooper added, "and federal health care run by the federal government?"

Trump said, "health care. We need health care for our people.

[Vision Thing]

That gif is inadvertently hilarious, so I thought you were mocking the pro-Cruz post to which you replied.

[RFEngineer]

“Oh, that’s fantastic. You know what the saddest part is?”

The saddest part to me is that you actually think that any of the other candidate will actually do any different than what you claim trump will do.

That’s why the vitriol on this site between Lyin’ Ted and Con-man Trump is so amusing.

I have no idea if Trump will do what he says on immigration. I think he will. That’s why I’m voting for him, but I don’t know for certain.

You have no idea if Cruz will do what he says either on anything he says he is going to do.

If you claim otherwise you have caricatured yourself in your criticism of me.

[Antoninus]

You have no idea if Cruz will do what he says either on anything he says he is going to do.

Cruz has been in the Senate slugging it out with precisely the people who practically everyone on FR identifies as the problem. He's taken his lumps. He's fought the good fight for little reward to this point.

Meanwhile, Trump has bankrolled many of the same people who we identify as the problem in DC, attends cocktailp parties with them, and jokes about buying them.

It's really not a hard question of who to trust if you just stop believing the hype for 30 seconds.

[Amendment10]

Noting that I will gladly vote for Trump, constitutionally low-information Trump evidently doesn’t understand that the states have never delegated to the feds, expressly via the Constitution, the specific power to regulate, tax and spend for either INTRAstate healthcare purposes or intrastate schooling purposes.

Trump’s supporters need to get him up to speed on the fed’s constitutionally limited powers.

Trump should be supporting amendments to the Constitution to give the feds the specific power to regulate healthcare and education while on the campaign trail imo.

But also note that the states do not have to ratify such amendments.

[Antoninus]

Perhaps. But that is a risk I'm willing to take. And I'm fully cognizant of it.

I still adhere to the motto that it's better for us to have a known enemy in office than a false friend. I have no doubt at all that The Rump falls into the false friend category.

[Svartalfiar]

Trump is right again. Security first.

Then, education is important and the federal government has a huge role in devolving their massive role and allowing states and institutions more freedom. He is right education is important at the federal level as the federal involvement in education is destructive and needs to be supportive and constructive.

And yes, the federal government also has a HUGE role in healthcare and needs to use that role to increase private competition, reform Medicaid and strengthen medicare.

Well, you and Trump are both 1 for 3 there. First, yes, security. But that's it. The federal govt doesn't need to be involved in education at all. There is no supportive/constructive. It's NOT AT ALL. As to healthcare, the govt's only involvement should maybe be viral/disease research, military-related stuff, and healthcare for its employees. Medicaid and medicare should both be eliminated. If a state wants to have its own forms of that, they can do that. But the FedGov has no role in spending my money oh stuff it shouldn't be touching in the first place.

[kabar]

The guy flat-out has no clue what he’s talking about. His mouth just emits plausible words and hopes they make sense to someone somewhere.

Name on Rep candidate who wants to eliminate Medicaid (80 million participants and Medicare (47 million participants). These programs are single payer. Medicare and Medicaid account for 26% of the federal budget and it is growing faster than inflation as we have an aging population. Coupled with SS, these three programs account for 50% of the federal budget.

Whether we like it or not, the USG plays a major role in healthcare and will continue to do so. Neither party will eliminate Medicaid or Medicare. They will seek ways to increase taxes and decrease benefits to keep them going.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

So you admit then that even the states are no good at governing and solving their State problems.

Go Trump Go!

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The states do better when left alone. In regards to schools, I was referring to the massive decline in the federal government through the department of education. Common Core being the latest iteration of that. This country was far better educated when the states and school districts were left alone without the meddling of the Federal leviathan. Of course according to Trump this is one of the main purposes of the government.

When it comes to government the smaller and more local the better. This country was founded on, among other principles, federalism.

But if you think His Donaldness can fix things with the Yuge Federal leviathan, knock yourself out. After 6,000 years of failure maybe government will fix things this time.

[RFEngineer]

“It’s really not a hard question of who to trust if you just stop believing the hype for 30 seconds.”

For me, it’s not about hype. It’s about Trump being the first and only politician to take our illegal immigration problem seriously.

I can point to Cruz just being a pandering politician too, I can point to him failing, egregiously even, to fulfill his Constitutional duty. There is more, but it doesn’t matter.

Illegal immigration and all related issues surrounding it is the only issue that truly matters to me.

I think Trump will do something about it. I am highly skeptical of Cruz.

The political theater is amusing. But it is meaningless.

[kabar]

Medicaid and medicare should both be eliminated.

LOL. Name one Rep member of Congress that advocates this position. If any did, they would be defeated. The overwhelming majority of people want these programs continued and their rolls are increasing every day. They need to be reformed since they will bankrupt us if we don't. Medicare has been running in the red since 2008.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Hey Trumpster Trolls - what say you?

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Let's ask.

How does this prove Trump is conservative and will make America Great Again?

As a brief reminder

1) Neither Health care or education are powers delegated to the federal government in the Constitution.

2) The involvement of the federal government through the department of education has failed the children of this country miserably and was opposed by Ronald Reagan.

3) Obammacare speaks for itself.

[Reaper19]

It means it’ll be great. It’ll be huge. Doctors love Trump. Patients love Trump.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

“Conservatives correctly understand that government often is the problem - especially with health care.”

And education, and social security and the list goes on and on. All of which Trump thinks government should be in control of, it just needs the right people. Just like every other Democrat will tell you.

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Communism works, it just needs the right people and we are the ones we have been waiting for. This thinking has cost more lives in human history than almost any other. It’s the fundamental view that people need to be managed and ordered about by the government as surfs or slaves instead of free citizens.

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

Ignorant_Cowboy, oops, I mean Idaho_Cowboy. You are immature and delusional. Try again.

[Hostage]

Trump has extemporaneously voiced his positions at each of his rallies. He doesn’t need writers, When he sits down to write, he focuses on all the main ideas and then he passes his writings to his lawyers for review to make sure everything he advocates is legal and Constitutional.

At his rallies, he speaks unstructured, extemporaneously or extemp, improvised and from the heart. These speeches are not meant to be scripted. They are meant to be in tune with his supporters and they are.

Trump has made structured speeches when he has felt a need exists such as at AIPAC where he received standing ovation after standing ovation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygKgnd8CrIQ

Trump is simultaneously blue-collar and ivy league. He is tireless, very high energy even to the point of writing books while traveling on his plane. He never stops producing.

Aspects of his healthcare plan have been mentioned and noted in all his rallies from the very beginning before he put out his policy paper. He puts out ideas and bounces them off participants at his rallies. Then, when his ideas pass muster with his lawyers, he waits for the right moment to release them in a policy paper.

[Hostage]

I gie great arguments, information and observations.

But I won’t waste my time with dense low IQ fools.

Now bugger off and don’t post to me anymore!

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Ignorant_Cowboy, oops, I mean Idaho_Cowboy. You are immature and delusional. Try again.

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So should I take that as your personal endorsement of Obamacare and Common Core? Or just big government in general?

Maybe you should reconsider the Democrat party. Trump was okay with being a member doing Obama’s first term.

[BlackFemaleArmyColonel]

Try again. You are just like Rafael Cruz. You distort Trump’s positions. Your sarcastic, immature comments to Trump supporters are very nasty. Go pray for your candidate and his wife. They need it.

[publius911]

You think medicaid and medicare are going away. We need to improve it.

We do?

Anyone with more than three brain cells to rub together knows that though imperfect, Social Security-linked Medicare functioned financially for 50 years.

Medicaid, on the other hand, is a ginormous welfare program with a deceptive name chosen to create an equivalence with user-funded Medicare. The name is where the equivalence ends.

Medicaid attracted (or was intended to attract) 100% of the indolent, who never worked in their lives parasites, who immediately, like the leeches they are, attached themselves to the truly needy whom most American citizen net-taxpayers have aided and supported, for over a century though private charities.

No Federal government can exist without fraud. Private independent, free from government involvement of any kind, charites are virtually fraud free.

In the United States, and certainly every other country, Socialism, which has been creeping into the American consciousness for 50 years, is by definition incapable of tolerating charity, human nature being what it is.
For us, that has culminated with the Sanders phenomenon.

Even low or no information voters, can understand this : Careful what you wish for. The first target of a Socialist bankrupt country is welfare.

The second is the able-bodied idle.
The third (again human nature) is forced production, because the producers are prohibited from keeping any part of what they produce for themselves.

Of course, it would behoove the parasites to figure all this out sooner, rather than later, because after their support makes socialism the new paradise, it may take a hundred years to "fix" things. e.g. The Soviet Union.

Welcome to paradise.
You don't work, you don't eat.
You don't eat you die.
You steal? you end up in a forced labor camp' if you're lucky.

Rinse and repeat.

[edpc]

Here - I'll argue like you....

How about I post to whomever I want and you f***ing like it!!!