Posted on 03/29/2016 12:47:21 PM PDT by george76
Federal and local law enforcement authorities Tuesday are investigating after 17 men were detained for reportedly firing off hundreds of rounds in a remote part of Apple Valley.
San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies and an FBI agent were among the units that detained the men – reportedly all of Middle Eastern descent – who were camping out in the Deep Creek Hot Springs area Sunday morning,
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A 911 caller reported hearing over 100 shots fired and seeing five to seven men wearing turbans and shooting “assault rifles, handguns, and shotguns,” according to a Sheriff’s Department statement.
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Police scanner traffic posted online by the Victor Valley News Group described “a large group of subjects wearing turbans and chanting” at the scene.
“They were up all night chanting ‘Allah akbar’-type stuff
(Excerpt) Read more at losangeles.cbslocal.com ...
Change “Allu Akbar” to “Hold my beer” and “hundreds of shots” to “thousands” and you would have my brothers and I a few weekends ago.
That part of California is not regulated heavily. When I grew up in LA my Dad would take us out there several times a years on shooting parties. You can still just stop anywhere off the main highways around there and blast away to your hearts content.
There were big Apple Valley land scams going on in LA when I was a kid in the 50s. Hesperia was one. They’d show phony pictures of trees and lakes and get people to buy land out there sight unseen. So many people bought land and insisted in building up there that they eventually had to incorporate.
Further detail needed. If they were really shooting at people, then they should be charged. But otherwise, unless they were using illegal weapons, or shooting in prohibited areas, or were committing some other actual crime, let’s not jump to conclusions. Observe - monitor - report suspicious activity = all good. But I’d like more detail...
““There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained and they were released,” a Sheriff’s spokesperson said.”
But you can bet they all are now on a “watch list,” that is , if they weren’t already!
That’s for sure.
As I said earlier, all of them Mid-Eastern in a remote area of Apple Valley. All shooting hundreds of rounds of semi-automatic rifles and handguns. All chanting “Allah Achbar.”
17 men, who know how to shoot, and who are committed to any kind of Jihad/Martyrdom as a group, could create a LOT of mayhem and death.
I wonder how many other groups of 17 similar individuals there are around the country doing similar things preparing for who knows what?
“I guarantee if they weren’t muslims they’d be in jail....we will be hearing from them again and some poor parents will be burying those murdered by them.”
You nailed it!
Actually, there were plenty of apples in the 1920s. They all died after the LA aqueduct siphoned off all of the watershed from the entire Eastern Sierras. There were many farms from Owens Valley to San Bernardino that were lost due to the loss of water. LA bought a single strip of land along the base of the mountains and took all the water. The farmers spent quite a few years blowing up sections of the aqueduct in protest, but they never had the political power to do anything. Such was the beginning of global warming...
No doubt President Obama will condemn the local authorities for racial profiling. Additionally they will be invited to the white house and called great Americans.
Insanity!
Nah..... you must be mistaken ..... islam is a religion of peace, after all....
“I wonder how many other groups of 17 similar individuals there are around the country doing similar things preparing for who knows what?”
And the evil bastards had an home built AR. Just wonder how long it will be before those “stalwarts” in the Congress rewrite the Firearms Act of 1968 and take out the provision that allows us to build our own “unregistered firearms?” Everyone better buy a few more 80% Lowers before they’re illegal.
“The farmers spent quite a few years blowing up sections of the aqueduct in protest, but they never had the political power to do anything. Such was the beginning of global warming...”
But I think that the LAMWD’s “chickens have come home to roost” as regards the Owen River Valley water. I recall a court case not too many years back where LAMWD was told to cut way back on the water they were taking. I know that Mono Lake was threatened by their taking too much water, an now it’s getting healthy again. The Los Angeles Basin has been allowed to grow way beyond the water that there is to support it. They have lost a big chunk of the Colorado River water due to AZ taking what was always theirs. Who knows, maybe the illegals will self-deport when they start dying of thurst.
What a complete crock. In other news some leftist morons discovered it is legal to shoot guns in remote areas.
Back to the training compound.
Nasty punishment.
Lucky they weren’t Americans - they would have had their permits revoked, their firearms confiscated, and done jail time.
The Old Jihadi’s Almanac
— April 2016 —
Jihad Probability
(1 through 5 crescents)
1st - 7th: 1 crescent
8th - 11th: 3 crescents
12th - 18th: 1 crescent
19th - 21st: 5 crescents
22nd - 30th: 4.5 crescents
In a sane country this would be a sufficient basis to detain these men until warrants could be obtained to conduct searches of property and computer devices. After every mass shooting there’s a wringing if hands and cries of “if only we had some indication what they were up to”. The terrorists probably have to pinch themselves when they realize how stupid western security forces really are.
I mostly agree. I remember that previously sane country.
The Western security services aren’t stupid; they are complicit. That is why there is 0.00 probability of those services doing what the law requires, what you and I expect, and what they are paid to do. That is also why there is a 1.00 probability of another terrorist attack.
They aren’t stopping terrorism because that’s exactly the way they want it.
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