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Ryan moves stir White House talk
The Hill ^ | SCOTT WONG

Posted on 03/28/2016 10:32:50 AM PDT by ShivaFan

Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) could be in prime position to run for president in 2020 if Donald Trump leads the GOP to a monumental collapse in November.

With his youth and sunny, Reaganesque message, Ryan could be a formidable White House candidate in four years’ time, when the Republican Party may be searching for a safer standard-bearer after the roller coaster ride of 2016.

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KEYWORDS: 114th; 2016gopprimary; amnesty; establishment; gope; ryan; ryan2016; speakerryan; tpp
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Anyone declared "formidable" by the lame stream media and the DC insiders means that person is for amnesty, open borders and cheap labor.

Anyone who is not for an endless spigot of illegal and criminal aliens, open borders and cheap labor is declared "unwinnable" against the Democrats and someone who is not a "safer standard-bearer".

"Formidable" means amnesty and open borders because it is "safer". "Safer standard-bearer" means you are for unsafe borders. "Mudslinging" means you say you want to build the wall. A "positive, forward-looking vision for the party and nation" means you never will build a wall or secure the border, and it means amnesty for illegal and criminal aliens now and for all those to come without end. "More civility" means never question the establishment who continues the same-old-same-old, "name-calling" means you dared question the establishment, and going along with the establishment's open borders agenda is "looking and sounding presidential", and going along to get along with the establishment's same-old-same-old is "raising our gaze and aiming for a brighter horizon".

"Reaganesque" now means amnesty, open borders and cheap labor is the most important thing in the world and open borders and betraying the American worker and an endless spigot of cheap labor is now the new definition of "conservative".

Anyone who is part of the Reagan coalition is not "Reaganesque" and needs to be stopped.

"No presidential ambitions" means you want to use any means necessary to retain power including being declared the President by fiat. Having "big policy dreams for the country, not big political dreams for myself" means focus on the big policy of the establishment's amnesty, open borders and cheap labor policy and nothing else is bigger or more important than that even if it means you give the Democrats everything they want. Not doing so is "ugly" and doing so is "consensus". "National figure" means only Mexican votes matter, "fundraising powerhouse" means you get money from the donor class behind the agenda of amnesty, open borders, an endless spigot of cheap labor, and from the globalist elite that has betrayed the American worker and money from crony capitalists.

Writing about Paul Ryan in a flattering way means Stop Trump and Stop the Republican Base by any means necessary, but make it sound "check pants" and "pinstriped" yet "soft toy" and "blue plate".

1 posted on 03/28/2016 10:32:50 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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Barf Alert!

(Usually obligatory for Establishment Leftists who help 0bama pass EVERYTHING.)


2 posted on 03/28/2016 10:34:15 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (No vote has been changed due to an FR post in about 2 months. Chillax.)
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PRyno will be lucky to get re-elected this Fall.


3 posted on 03/28/2016 10:34:24 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Advice to voters in Ryan’s district who want to ditch him. If you get polled, lie. That way Ryan will get complacent rather than combative.


4 posted on 03/28/2016 10:34:52 AM PDT by Kenny (e)
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Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) could be in prime position to run for president in 2020 if Donald Trump leads the GOP to a monumental collapse in November.

Does that mean he's giving up his House seat?

5 posted on 03/28/2016 10:35:20 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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Hmmmm...I think this author is smoking crack. Just my thoughts...


6 posted on 03/28/2016 10:36:21 AM PDT by dware (Contested convention = final nail in the GOP coffin)
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You’re wasting your time, Paul.


7 posted on 03/28/2016 10:38:32 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Truth--as well as we can perceive it and put it into words--is the best we can do.)
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if Donald Trump leads the GOP to a monumental collapse in November

Yet another MSM pundit trying to scare the horses.

8 posted on 03/28/2016 10:39:08 AM PDT by bkopto
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Not if his sorry ass is PRIMARIED OUT THIS TIME! Understand some successful biz guy is going to give it a shot!  photo RYAN copy TEXTjpg_zpsq3gsn4d1.jpg
9 posted on 03/28/2016 10:40:10 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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The goper rino uniparty vichy republican establishment leadership is moving the party towards collapse, if anyone is. Trump is the response, not the cause.

I am sick to death of them. Tey have to ve purged out. We can’t have this faux democrat opposition that keeps lying to us and screwing us again and agai and that we gleefully elect back again and again, believing they finally go the message “this time”.

They all need to go. And they need to be a much smaller percentage of lawyers, not the 2/3 or 3/4 they are now.


10 posted on 03/28/2016 10:41:48 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Paul Ryan was mentored and picked for DC politics by one CESAR CONDA. Conda also handpicked and became the chief of staff for MARCO RUBIO and is joined at the hip with Grover Norquist.

Paul Ryan and Rubio are both trojan horses, HAND PICKED to push amnesty, cheap labor and BAD TRADE like TPP.


11 posted on 03/28/2016 10:42:59 AM PDT by AuntB (Trump right on Trade, Immigration, Terrorism,Economy, 2nd amend. Without them, we are lost.)
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If the DC Uni-Party tries to cram Ryan down my throat, I will walk!


12 posted on 03/28/2016 10:47:35 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (Remember...after the primaries, we better still be on the same team!)
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There won’t be a 2020 if Trump does not get elected.


13 posted on 03/28/2016 10:49:14 AM PDT by Blue Turtle
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Source: The Hill
Writer Puke: Scott Wong
Subject: Ryan for President
Action: Round File


14 posted on 03/28/2016 10:52:06 AM PDT by Hostage (ARTICLE V)
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To: dware

Read like a Nothing Burger article to me.


15 posted on 03/28/2016 10:54:20 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: ShivaFan

To Hell with Ryan, Romney, Bush and ALL of the GOP elites!


16 posted on 03/28/2016 10:57:18 AM PDT by mkjessup ("I will drop him [Cruz] like a hot potato if these accusations are true." ~ Glenn Beck - 3-28-2016)
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2020 will not work for Ryan...

BECAUSE Donald J. Trump will be running for his second term, then in 2024 Ben Carson will be groomed and ready to roll...JMHO.

Ryan’s ship sailed when Romney gave it away to BHO. both losers ...


17 posted on 03/28/2016 10:58:35 AM PDT by haircutter
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2020. Which means there won’t be a Republican incumbent.


18 posted on 03/28/2016 10:59:42 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: haircutter

Stick a fork in Carson, he is done.


19 posted on 03/28/2016 11:16:22 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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Ryan is an idiot.

Trump is not going to self-destruct. But if the GOPe managed to nominate Ryan instead of trump. I’d be hard pressed whether to write in Trump or actually vote against Ryan by voting for the democrat.


20 posted on 03/28/2016 11:20:03 AM PDT by DannyTN
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