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Donald Trump’s Giant Convention Con
Politico ^ | 3/26/2016 | Mickey Edwards

Posted on 03/28/2016 7:47:48 AM PDT by TheThirdRuffian

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To: Russ

Look up “rationalization”.

concealing the true motivations for his or her own thoughts, actions, or feelings through the elaboration of reassuring or self serving but incorrect explanations


81 posted on 03/28/2016 8:38:43 AM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. “the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected“)
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To: Windflier
Folks can argue that ‘rules are rules’ all they want, but if the party casts aside the clear winner of the nominating contest, simply because that candidate falls short of some arbitrary number of delegates, and instead, chooses a nominee more to the insiders’ liking, it’s going to backfire in spectacular fashion.

But that's just it, Windy. A clear winner is defined by 50% + 1 of the whole slate of delegates. 1237 is not arbitrary. There are 2472 Republican delegates this year. 50% is 1236. Plus one is 1237.

As an aside, there are no rules. Those arguing that the rules are the rules clearly don't understand that. Neither do those arguing that following the rules is denying the will of the people. There are no rules until the convention votes on a set of rules. There are only suggested guidelines.

82 posted on 03/28/2016 8:40:57 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

If cruz intends to win the nomination via contested/brokered convention, he is a beta male.


83 posted on 03/28/2016 8:41:02 AM PDT by Vision Thing (Anyone who plans to win a nomination via brokered convention is a beta male.)
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To: Gaffer

You still have hard feelings about the 2012 8 majority rule, do ya?

“Majority” of delegates for nomination has been the rule from day one.


84 posted on 03/28/2016 8:41:26 AM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. “the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected“)
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To: Windflier

You’ve let appeasing “concern” news pollute you. Go back and think about fly-over country - all the places in which elites in DC have no effing idea happens.

They drive by all those places in their limos and Ubers or wherever they go on their way to a DC party.


85 posted on 03/28/2016 8:42:52 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: jjotto

Really? I’ve certainly missed the FR calls to violence you refer to.


86 posted on 03/28/2016 8:43:44 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: X-spurt

How glib. To bad your assertion is not rooted in historical fact. But you knew that.


87 posted on 03/28/2016 8:44:43 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

I just heard Laura Ingraham talking to a guy.....I think Halperin...who supposedly is up on conventions saying rules are changed every convention to accommodate whoever has the power then

Sux but these are politicians after all making their own rules


88 posted on 03/28/2016 8:44:56 AM PDT by wardaddy (Cruz path to nomination is a box canyon)
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To: X-spurt

And you are another of the obfuscators. Go back and read the trail from beginning to end. I don’t give a crap about that rule. It seems that Trump has already jumped that hurdle. It is only you staid equivocators who like to parse and confuse the real gist of this trail.

Go play in traffic.


89 posted on 03/28/2016 8:45:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: dware

DONEald is that you?


90 posted on 03/28/2016 8:45:34 AM PDT by X-spurt (William of Ockham endorses Ted Cruz. “the one with the fewest assumptions should be selected“)
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To: dware

“A contested Convention will destroy the GOP completely.The GOP has done enough to destroy itself, and this will just see the whole thing collapse.”

If they pull a fast one and screw Trump even though he is the winner, I tend to agree.

If Trump doesn’t get the votes, I don’t think so, unless they prop of Kasich or some other squish (which they probably will do).

A lot of Trump supporters will be pissed, I agree.


91 posted on 03/28/2016 8:46:58 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: No_More_Harkin

The founders advised against political parties. I never understood why at first then I realized parties allow lazy voting. People just vote party, not the individual. Without parties, individuals would be under more scrutiny by the electorate.


92 posted on 03/28/2016 8:47:14 AM PDT by Jay Thomas (If not for my faith in Christ, I would despair.)
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To: Jay Thomas

The site owner has not.


93 posted on 03/28/2016 8:47:41 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“It’s a valid point. Unfortunately, it is also the argument that the RINOes will use to give us Paul Ryan or Romney.”

Which will be seen as an even more illegitimate manipulation of the process by the ruling elite.

The people are in no mood to be dictated to by their ‘betters’, and will show their displeasure by abandoning the party if they attempt to shove another milquetoast RINO down our throats at the convention.


94 posted on 03/28/2016 8:48:01 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

“And we live in a Democratic Republic, not a true Democracy.”

Actually, we are Representative Republic. No democratic anything there at all.


95 posted on 03/28/2016 8:48:17 AM PDT by Beagle8U
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To: jjotto

“But we do hear Sean Hannity urging Trump supporters to feel like victims, and on FR there are calls for violence around the convention and for harassing delegates at home, if they do not change to a plurality rule from a majority rule.”

As have I.


96 posted on 03/28/2016 8:48:35 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

So they are going to chose Cruz whose won 3 primaries? Stupid party showing its butt again.


97 posted on 03/28/2016 8:48:56 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: X-spurt; dware

Back off. dware has been here a full decade longer than you and he ain’t a Paultard.


98 posted on 03/28/2016 8:49:47 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: Jay Thomas

But yet we have voters objecting to doing anything more than spending a few anonymous minutes in a voting booth a few times a decade.


99 posted on 03/28/2016 8:50:06 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: TheThirdRuffian

This is stupid! Someone has to be the nominee. Supposing Trump does fall short of delegates, but has far more than any other candidate? Does that mean then he should standby and allow on of the other candidates in the race win the nomination? Or someone who is not running at all? Of course, he should go ahead and try to win!

It is amazing he has the number of delegates that he has, considering how shabbily he has been treated by our own party not to mention their cheating!


100 posted on 03/28/2016 8:50:38 AM PDT by erkelly
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