If the delegates vote on the first ballot and Trump is still short of the 1,237 he needs, then the delegates pledged to Trump can be released for the 2nd ballot. If those are the rules, isn't it fairly easy to presume that something unique can happen at the convention?
I am "ABC" all the way so for me, there doesn't have to be a sharp contrast in candidates to get me to vote. But I find it fascinating if the system can move the nomination away from Trump without even using "shenanigans".
Neither the Trumpsters or Cruzers will vote for Kasich (RINO). Just a question as to where the unallocated will go, to Trump or Cruz. Kasich is being funded by the Left (Soros for one).
The Kasich plan...
lose every state but his home state, and then hope he can steal the nomination at the convention with the help of GOPe insiders.
Great Plan Kasich.
not.
Kasich is a leftist republican. Just look at his policies in Ohio and what his plans are for our nation.
If Kasich gets the nomination our nation is finished, so I’ll stay home and not waste my time voting.
Kasich (and the GOPe) is an Enemy of Democracy (EOD).
Kasich is pro-Obamacare, pro-illegal immigrant including Amnesty, pro-gun ban including the “assault” weapons ban that he voted for, pro gay mafia “bake the cupcake”, pro-big government, and pro-Obama’s Supreme Court nominees. He has a 50-50 chance against Hillary because voters won’t be able to tell the difference, so they’ll just flip a coin. If he wins, we won’t be able to tell the difference from a Hillary win.
Kasich is delusional.
A guy who could actually think, after losing 31 out of 32 primaries, and likely to have the total be a loss of 49 our of 50, that he could somehow win the nomination, should not be considered for the Presidency on that fallacy alone.
Much more likely we get a Trump-Cruz ticket out of a contested convention. That would be great - we’d get 16 years of Cruz in the Whitehouse!
If Kasich stays in I don’t see anyway Trump doesn’t get 1237+. Hell even if it’s Trump v Cruz Trump still gets 1237 by my math.
At best Kasich might peel a district or two at best here and there and that’s best case scenario and that’s why he’s here to slow down the trump delegate count, but I don’t see it preventing Trump from an outright win.
I know also that while some folks in the party want to stop Trump at all costs, I fully expect calmer heads to prevail should a contested convention happen. If Trump is sitting just under 1237 and the next closest person is a full 25% behind and Kasich won’t even have 1/3 of the votes needed... I doubt highly that cooler heads won’t prevail.
The assumption that Trumps delegates will at large defect on a second round vote I think may be premature... Some may but are delegates for others going to stay with a lost candidate or will enough realize the party will be dead if they go against the voters...
Time will tell but I see all this as trumped up political theater.
The voters should elect Kasich President of Ohio......maybe then he’ll go away.
Kasich must be on crack ,,,,,
Kasich, the other white meat!
I think when they take a look at my record....”
Sorry, John - you make such a fool of yourself repeating this a thousand times, people can’t see your record for seeing YOU - now and today.
And few other than Buckeyes are buying it........
Your plan to win the nomination clearly shows us that you are not smart enough to be president and only on a self-deluded ego trip - all because you won your own state and the GOPe loves you because you are Democrat lite..........
GOP ‘Helter Skelter’
Delegates are bound by State rules, not convention “rules”. Unless and until Rinse-and Repeat-us decides that he has a “phone and a pen”.
Some States bind their delegates into the 3rd or 4th ballot.
Kasich, you are dumber than a rock.
Then, after time, he began to sound slightly delusional.
Now he sounds plainly insane.
The only way Trump doesn't come out of a brokered convention with the nomination is if he completely falls apart in these last primaries and winds up several hundred votes short instead of a hundred or so. If he goes in with 90% or 95% of the votes needed then he will be able to find them.
It cannot be stolen from Trump unless it's stolen - then I think the GOPe will lose every down ballot race and thus the Senate and House - not a good plan for the GOPe.
I still think Trump will get the 1237 on his own but had he taken Ohio and completely swept last Tuesday's contests, we'd have been having different conversations.
If Ohio likes Kasich as governor so much, they can keep Kasich as governor.
Once it is mathematically impossible for Cruz to win, then I expect him to withdraw and throw his support to Trump
That will be the end of all this ‘brokered convention’ baloney (which I do not think Cruz wants)