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Obama-Backed Solar Plant Could Be Shut Down For Not Producing Enough Energy(WTH!?)
dailycaller.com ^ | 3/17/2016 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 03/18/2016 8:41:48 AM PDT by rktman

California regulators may force a massive solar thermal power plant in the Mojave Desert to shut down after years of under-producing electricity — not to mention the plant was blinding pilots flying over the area and incinerating birds.

The Ivanpah solar plant could be shut down if state regulators don’t give it more time to meet electricity production promises it made as part of its power purchase agreements with utilities, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Ivanpah, which got a $1.6 billion loan guarantee from the Obama administration, only produced a fraction of the power state regulators expected it would. The plant only generated 45 percent of expected power in 2014 and only 68 percent in 2015, according to government data.

And it does all this at a cost of $200 per megawatt hour — nearly six times the cost of electricity from natural gas-fired power plants. Interestingly enough, Ivanpah uses natural gas to supplement its solar production.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: acorn; boondoggle; california; chickenfricacee; climatechangehoax; doomage; ecowackos; epa; globalwarminghoax; governormoonbeam; ivanpah; jerrybrown; mojavedesert; moneylaundering; moonbeam; necessarilyskyrocket; obama; obamalegacy; popefrancis; romancatholicism; solarpanels; solarthermal; solyndra
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"And it does all this at a cost of $200 per megawatt hour — nearly six times the cost of electricity from natural gas-fired power plants. Interestingly enough, Ivanpah uses natural gas to supplement its solar production."

Geez, only six times the cost of natural gas + it supplements itself with natural gas? What could possibly go wrong here? A few million more in subsidies and they'll swear they'll be able to lower the cost to "only" 4 times the cost of using natural gas. What a great plan. Plus, it's probably a hoot to watch the "streamers" as they attempt to fly through the glare.

1 posted on 03/18/2016 8:41:48 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

Kinda pricy bird incinerator.


2 posted on 03/18/2016 8:43:31 AM PDT by glock rocks (TTTT !)
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To: rktman

This is the type of idiocy you see when other peoples money is stolen to pay for it.


3 posted on 03/18/2016 8:45:19 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: rktman

Must have been this guy in charge: http://i678.photobucket.com/albums/vv146/gmosko/Fallout%20New%20Vegas/Fantastic2.jpg


4 posted on 03/18/2016 8:46:22 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: rktman

JFTR: Solar thermal generation is not the same as solar panel (photovoltaic) generation. They’re actually attempting to use solar energy to heat a working fluid to mechanically turn a generator for AC power.


5 posted on 03/18/2016 8:46:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: glock rocks

How many miles of the wall could have been built with the money wasted on this project?


6 posted on 03/18/2016 8:47:00 AM PDT by smoky415 (Corporal Smoky - Smallest WWII Hero Dog)
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To: rktman

Collectivism is about intent, not result.


7 posted on 03/18/2016 8:47:40 AM PDT by lurk
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To: glock rocks

And you wonder why private investors will not invest in any of this crap science without massive government subsidies.


8 posted on 03/18/2016 8:50:26 AM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men (people) to come to the aid of their country!)
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To: dirtymac

350 years of recoverable coal in the US.
Why not spend research money on cleaning the last bit of pollution given off from this proven resource ?


9 posted on 03/18/2016 8:53:46 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Olog-hai

Kinda like a steam engine? LOL!


10 posted on 03/18/2016 8:54:57 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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To: lurk
Collectivism is about intent, not result.

I believe collectivism is all about the result, just not the one the tyrants claim. The result is that people who cannot produce anything of value get to control the lives of those who can.

11 posted on 03/18/2016 8:59:13 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

How dare you apply logic and common sense to this debate?! Time for your visit to the re-education camp!


12 posted on 03/18/2016 9:00:18 AM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage

I’ve mined coal, sold coal, burned coal...
Light ‘em up !


13 posted on 03/18/2016 9:01:53 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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“And it does all this at a cost of $200 per megawatt hour”

I assume any green energy is not going to be as efficient at producing power, but where is the cost coming from on this?


14 posted on 03/18/2016 9:02:26 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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Yes; that’s how Ivanpah works, boiling water for steam to turn turbine generators. Much easier to use coal for that purpose.


15 posted on 03/18/2016 9:03:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: rktman

It would be far cheaper for any company that is thinking of installing photovoltaics to just buy a lot of plywood panels and paint them black, and set them on stands out on the lawn, and keep using utility power for their electricity needs. That way they get all of the greenie-bunnyhugger cred, but they get to keep money in the bank and the lights come on when you flip a switch.


16 posted on 03/18/2016 9:08:44 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Admit you were conned / This means you are good and honest / There's no shame in this)
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More Libtard Wealth Redistribution

The real purpose of projects like this is to funnel large amounts of government taxpayer money to the right people.

Actually building these white elephants with a part of the money is just a necessary part of the deal.

After all - they have something to show to the people to keep them from wondering what happened to the bulk of the money.


17 posted on 03/18/2016 9:10:33 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouth -- Mike Tyson)
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18 posted on 03/18/2016 9:11:51 AM PDT by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: rktman

With the exception of hydro-electric and photovoltaic all power plants work kind of like steam engines. I had a textbook that pictured old power plant mechanical regulators and such that look like something you would see on a giant steam boat.


19 posted on 03/18/2016 9:15:00 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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To: DonaldC

“We’re gonna put a lot of solar engineers and solar companies out of business.” Oh, wait.............


20 posted on 03/18/2016 9:25:19 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?!)
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