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To: Theo

I am a Christian . I see nothing in the Bible imputing “Messiah” or “king” to any man— only Jesus.. I see nothing in the Bible that these cultists pave the way for Christ or that they take money from non believers and distribute it to believers. I see nothing in the Bible about this cult. You can judge me all you want. I am saved in the blood of Jesus and I don’t need YOU.


46 posted on 03/17/2016 7:17:37 PM PDT by WENDLE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgIhGgrhQeE)
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To: WENDLE; reaganaut

Ping!


51 posted on 03/17/2016 7:21:30 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Trump it is.)
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To: WENDLE

What does “messiah” have to do with anything? That’s Jesus, and Jesus alone.

As far as “king,” that is a biblical term. It was used in the OT to describe leaders. And in the NT to describe followers of Christ. We are “kings and priests.” That term is biblical.

It is not “cultist” to encourage engagement in the various spheres of human life.

You’re sounding awfully defensive, WENDLE. Not sure why.

Are you saying that Ted Cruz is a “cultist” for believing that it is good and right to be salt and light in all of society? That it’s good to engage in, say, seven spheres of society? Do you not like the biblical term “dominion”? It is a biblical term, part of one of God’s commandments to us.


55 posted on 03/17/2016 7:26:36 PM PDT by Theo (Trump = French Revolution. Cruz = American Revolution. Choose wisely.)
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To: WENDLE; Theo

“I see nothing in the Bible about this cult. You can judge me all you want. I am saved in the blood of Jesus and I don’t need YOU.”

First of all, I have personally looked up the Houston churches where Cruz grew up and been affiliated with, and they have typical, standard statements of faith posted on their websites.

As a Christian, you are supposed to “prove all things”. Lots of slander is currently being directed at Christians because they are Christians. You need to be sure you are not repeating it.

Your statement which I quoted above, claiming to be washed in Christ’s blood and expressing rejection for another professing Christian in the same breath is very unwise. I am telling you this as a warning, which you are free to take heed to or reject. But on the authority of the Bible, you are in danger of openly committing a grave sin which the Bible specifically identifies as a reason for professing Christians to experience sickness and even death.

When believers, remember the blood of Christ in a disrespectful way, “not discerning the body of Christ”, they bring judgment on themselves. The body of Christ is made up of many members, and one cannot say to another “I have no need of you”.

The communion of the body and blood of Christ is a communion with fellow believers. To show contempt for the sacredness of that union is the type of divisiveness that brought horrible judgments upon the believers in the church of Corinth.

1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin.

1 Corinthians 10:16-17
The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? For we, though many, are one bread and one body; for we all partake of that one bread.

1 Corinthians 11:27-32
Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord’s body. For this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened by the Lord, that we may not be condemned with the world.

1 Corinthians 12:20-22
But now indeed there are many members, yet one body. And the eye cannot say to the hand, “I have no need of you”; nor again the head to the feet, “I have no need of you.”

As I wrote this I saw you did offer an apology, which is good:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3410618/posts?page=107#104

Not trying to berate you, but please be careful not to get mixed up as to who is the real enemy.


112 posted on 03/17/2016 8:21:36 PM PDT by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: WENDLE; Duchess47; Theo

As I mentioned on the other thread, I had not heard much about dominionism until Cruz. As a cult deprogrammer, bible scholar and theologian, what I heard was troubling so I did some research. It is not biblical at all. It is very similar to replacement theology and Immanentizing the eschaton both of which are not biblical teachings no matter what Cruz’s followers state.

Even Got Questions, which is staunchly Evangelical calls Dominionism unbiblical and it is. It is definitely a theological cult (its teaching vary on some core doctrines), and based upon what I have seen of its literature, it is at leas on the edge of the BITE model of control (high demand group or the classical meaning of cult). The simple fact that the proponent here immediately questions the faith of those who disagree is cause for concern. Contrary to what Theo claims the term is not only used (or pretty much only used) by ‘anti-Christians’ it is a valid description of the subset of Dominionist theology.

My faith is secure and it is because I am a Christian that I refuse to vote for Cruz.


143 posted on 03/18/2016 1:18:36 AM PDT by reaganaut (Bible Scholars, Theologians and Evangelicals for Trump)
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