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1 posted on 03/17/2016 6:14:56 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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I say let’s see what happens in AZ next week. If Trump wins, that’s 58 more in his column, 58 that Cruz cannot win - which will drive up the percentage of the remaining delegates that he needs to win into the 90s. If that happens, it is all but impossible for him to win - especially given that Trump will almost certainly win most of NY’s delegates (95) in late April and all of NJ’s in June (51). The math will make it impossible for Cruz to win.

Then Cruz will have to balance off 2 things: First, what is the realistic chance that he can win on the 2nd ballot, assuming that Trump can’t reach 1,237? My own personal opinion is that the GOPe won’t allow that - they hate Ted’s guts.

Second, Cruz will have to carefully consider what he wants his legacy to be - that of someone who was a team player, who helped the Republican Party to unify and defeat Hillary or, alternatively, the guy who was so selfish that he allowed the Party to remain divided and let the easiest win in History get flushed down the toilet (along with the entire Judiciary Branch).

Now, to be fair: 1) Trump will have the largest part in determining whether the Party will unify (and the GOPe HAS to understand that the voters determine the Party’s fate, not them); and 2) Cruz is entitled to make his own decision and have a certain amount of dignity.

I don’t back Cruz, ONLY because I don’t believe that he can win in November. However, I do like his ideas and what he’s done (almost all of which has pissed off the GOPe, a good thing in and of itself), and I believe that he has a very bright future. Maybe Trump will make him AG, or nominate him to the Court to replace Scalia (now THAT would be quite an honor).


37 posted on 03/17/2016 6:28:39 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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Does anyone remember Bush gave us the Dubai Port Deal and Harriet Miers in the heat of summer? We are heading to summer.

IMHO it is time for Ted to get back to the Senate and stop this nightmare of a nominee.

We already have RINO's folding.

Ted, Jeff Sessions, and Mike Lee are the only ones IMHO to stop it.

Mitch the Squish? I don't trust him as far as I can throw him...

39 posted on 03/17/2016 6:30:16 AM PDT by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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I would like them to stay in and Trump win the 1237 or >.


40 posted on 03/17/2016 6:30:25 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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I see no reason to concede. It Trump wants it, he ought to win it.

And Cruz needs to go into the convention with as many delegates as humanly possible, and that means standing and fighting one on one.

I don’t particularly like quitters. Tapping out when you are honestly beaten, OK, but preemptively giving up is exactly the Republican mode we have been bitching about. Cruz should not do it.

On the other hand, why aren’t these threads posted demanding that the jackass junior, John Kasich, give up?


41 posted on 03/17/2016 6:30:56 AM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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The math seems very bad to me.

There are 2472 delegates.

As of now there are four candidates with delegates, and those are as follows:
Trump: 673
Cruz: 411
Rubio: 169
Kasich: 143
That leaves 1076 delegates remaining.
If Cruz picks up >62% of the remaining delegates, he will have more delegates than Trump entering the convention. And I’m not seeing the Rubio/Kasich voting breaking heavily for Trump.
Trump’s odds look pretty good right now, but the FRumpsters need to give the “get out” demands a rest.


42 posted on 03/17/2016 6:31:01 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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CRUZ is a buffer to thwart a GOPe victory.


43 posted on 03/17/2016 6:32:01 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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If Ted truly wishes to destroy they DC cabal, he should withdraw and endorse Trump!


45 posted on 03/17/2016 6:33:01 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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Nope. Don’t drop out, Ted... this is why we have the primary process. Let it play out.


50 posted on 03/17/2016 6:34:04 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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Before Tuesday Trump was ahead of Cruz by about 100 delegates, now Trump is ahead of Cruz by about 250 delegates.

Yet we hear over and over what a great night Cruz had and he can catch him.

Not gonna happen


51 posted on 03/17/2016 6:34:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (We must burn down the republican party, to save it for “We the People” (Palin Trump is the 1st wav)
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Pride goeth before the fall


53 posted on 03/17/2016 6:34:46 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Only they can beat Hillary, but for some reason they can't beat him)
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Donald J. Trump looks pretty good for 69.

Living in luxury most of his life and encountering some of the most beautiful women in the world tends to preserve the body it seems.

Melania will represent this country with a level of class not seen in decades. On the level of Jackie Kennedy methinks.


63 posted on 03/17/2016 6:36:03 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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Everyone should drop out if they don’t get 1237.


79 posted on 03/17/2016 6:42:18 AM PDT by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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Republican Party Choice 2016:

Back Trump

Political and National Suicide


85 posted on 03/17/2016 6:44:45 AM PDT by TTFlyer
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Trump seems to have a ceiling of about 50%.
If this is so, Cruz has a chance to win the nomination before the Convention... if Kasich drops out.
If it is NOT true (as every Trump supporter is yelling right now), then Trump can win before the convention if Kasich drops out.
Kasich needs 1095 delegates to reach 1237, and there are only 1079 available now, so he cannot win before the Convention. Kasich's ONLY reason to stay is to PREVENT either of our main options, Trump or Cruz, from earning the spot before the GOPe can steal it from them both, deny the GOP voters' choice, and name their own milquetoast to hand the win to Hillary so that the UniParty can continue unscathed in a year when 2/3 of both parties were totally against the Establishment.

It is Kasich who should drop out, and let Trump v Cruz happen, and let the GOP voters pick their candidate, not the establishment delegates and the RNC in a Convention.

Every path ahead leads to a Hillary win in NOV, except a Cruz win before the Convention. Trump rarely keeps the leads that he has in the polls, and he only polls even with Hillary. Cruz polls ahead of Hillary ny 8 points, and often exceeds his polling (8 wins so far instead of the 1 he was supposed to get).

103 posted on 03/17/2016 6:50:01 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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Its time for unity in our Republican Party. The Democrats are delighted at this infighting and barking at each other. If we don’t pull together, Hillary will waltz right into the White House. Republicans in all parts of our country have spoken. Donald Trump will be our candidate.


114 posted on 03/17/2016 6:54:00 AM PDT by armydawg505
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No republican should take campaign advise from the New York Times. Mr. Cruz included.


127 posted on 03/17/2016 7:01:31 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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I think both Kasich and Cruz needs to drop out at this juncture so we can focus on the general election and going after Hillary.

But Kasich looks like he drank the establishment koolaid and is full of his well-known stubborn streak and he feels “upped one” by an outsider (Trump) and still thinks he is the CEO of budget cuts within the Republican Party. Cuts are great, but the guy has let his stubbornish get the better of him, anyway he is a phony pro-amnesty hack and that is the number one issue that the establishment wants, amnesty and open borders and cheap labor.

I think if Kasich carries on, he will actually ruin his future, as well as taking votes that might go to Cruz.

As far as Cruz, he will not get the nomination. I don’t want this guy as V.P. no way, not after blaming Trump for the far left disruptions and their decades old riots et all. That was beyond the pale, I will never forgive Cruz for that and he is off my list and in fact he may have put his own Senate seat in jeopardy. He has let his snakes get the better of him. However, for the sake of unity against Hillary, he should now drop out, and I wouldn’t mind seeing him get some cabinet position in the Trump administration such as post master general, I don’t know, something, but not V.P..


131 posted on 03/17/2016 7:03:42 AM PDT by ShivaFan
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Yes Cruz needs to drop out.


146 posted on 03/17/2016 7:09:35 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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By his own repeated admission, he is no longer trying to win, but only trying to stop Trump. Just like his Establishment buddies and democrats.

And Rush still claims Cruz is the most hated.


154 posted on 03/17/2016 7:16:42 AM PDT by odawg
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Senator Ted Cruz of Texas would need to win the vast majority of the remaining delegates — a near impossibility.

However, what **is** possible is that Senator Cruz could pick up the vast majority of the not-Trump delegates--those belonging to Rubio, Kasich, et al.--which would pull him up into a neck-and-neck race with Mr. Trump.

184 posted on 03/17/2016 7:34:56 AM PDT by Charles Henrickson (I choose Cruz!)
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