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To: Cboldt
I looked up that Wand Kam Wo case above, and it looks like you are right:

A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory; or by authority of Congress, exercised either by declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, or by enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.

So Cruz was made a citizen by the authority of Congress, not thru naturalization. I would be surprised if Cruz lost.

28 posted on 03/10/2016 10:16:39 PM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for thoughts. (Ophelia, from Hamlet))
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To: Penelope Dreadful
Your remark is schizophrenic nonsense. First you cite language from the Wong Kim ark case (oft repeated in other cases), and then say the opposite of what SCOTUS said in that case.

If Cruz is made a citizens solely by act of Congress, then he is naturalized.

What the report attributes to the judge is a constitutional axiom that a person can simultaneously be naturalized solely by act of Congress, and natural born.

32 posted on 03/10/2016 10:22:13 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Penelope Dreadful
A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized

either by 

    treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, 

or by 

    authority of congress, exercised 
	
    either by 
	
        declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, 
	
    or by 

        enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 702-703


Cruz is a naturalized citizen. Naturalized by the authority of congress exercised by the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens.

35 posted on 03/10/2016 10:26:05 PM PST by Ray76 (Judge Roy Moore for Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

A naturalized citizen is not a natural born citizen. Please give me your understanding of these two terms.


41 posted on 03/10/2016 10:37:51 PM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

You’re missing the point.

Citizenship isn’t the issue.

Quality of citizenship is.

Only persons born on the US to US citizen parents are eligible for the Office of the President. NBCs are 100% American (quality). No questions asked. This is the only place in US Law where being a NBC is relevant. All other elected offices in the Federal Government require only citizenship.

The Founders were wise. Follow the Constitution.


74 posted on 03/11/2016 12:47:07 AM PST by Forty-Niner (Ursus Arctos Horribilis)
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To: Penelope Dreadful
So Cruz was made a citizen by the authority of Congress, not thru naturalization. I would be surprised if Cruz lost.

Our Constitution gives Congress the power of naturalization. So by definition if one is made a citizen by Congress one is a naturalized citizen.

81 posted on 03/11/2016 3:50:23 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: Penelope Dreadful
So Cruz was made a citizen by the authority of Congress, not thru naturalization.

Congress only has the powers of Naturalization. Article 1, Sec 8, Clause 4. They can not create a natural born Citizen.

134 posted on 03/11/2016 5:18:49 PM PST by Godebert (CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
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