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To: MNJohnnie

I think Cruz is wrong about the engaged part but right about the ‘low information’ part, even if not strong enough.

It’s not that the Trupettes don’t know much, even though that’s true, it’s that so much of what they do know is wrong.

Given the level of ignorance and self delusion rampant among the Trump supporters, it would be far preferable if they weren’t so engaged.

That so many non-Democrats ould be attracted to an unrepentant statist buffoon has come as a shock to me, and makes me fear for the future.


40 posted on 03/10/2016 6:38:38 AM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

No the problem is you are so emotionally invested in a certain candidate you automatically assume anyone who does not agree with you is “wrong”.

The fact that you cannot make a case for your candidate but instead spend your time insulting everyone who does not automaticallm agree with you indicates you are not thinking but emoting.

Rational people can disagree, emotional people attack others for not agreeing with them


47 posted on 03/10/2016 6:43:14 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: John Valentine

Given the level of ignorance and self delusion rampant among the Trump supporters, it would be far preferable if they weren’t so engaged.”

“self delusion”??

I am so glad I read your post, because maybe you can explain Cruz’s votes to me. I have been trying for months, and asking the same question, but no one has even offered an attempt.

First, of course, is the TPA vote. TPA is an Obama/globalist agenda initiative. Cruz worked with Paul Ryan, Mr. Establishment, to get it rolling. He wrote pieces for the media extolling it. When Sessions warned him about language in the bill that usurped Congress’s authority over immigration, he said Sessions did not know what he was talking about. The bill was completely toxic even without that in it.

He voted for cloture to get TPA to the floor for a vote, and as Cruz himself has pointed out, a vote for cloture is a vote for the bill. Then he voted for the bill. So that is TWO votes for TPA.

When the bill passed the House and returned to the Senate, he voted against the bill because his vote was no longer needed for passage. It also afforded him the opportunity to go about the country and tell all the low-information types that he voted against TPA. Or, more famously, he was for it before he was against it.

He later told Levin on his show that he had to vote against the bill the second time because he did not know about the immigration language and that “leadership” had promised him they would remove it, but did not. Cruz lied.

Next, he voted for the Corker bill, an Obama/globalist agenda initiative, a bill that was written by the White House that plainly and quickly enabled the Iran treaty, which contravened the Constitution. Cruz, Mr. Constitution, never blinked an eye.

Can you explain these votes by Cruz, a man highly touted that just will not bow to the Establishment, a man who stands rock-ribbed in defense of the Constitution, except the natural born clause, of course.


67 posted on 03/10/2016 6:56:21 AM PST by odawg
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To: John Valentine

“It’s not that the Trupettes don’t know much, even though that’s true, it’s that so much of what they do know is wrong.”

You’re so wonderfully smart. You should know that when you quote Ronald Reagan, even changing a few words, you should cite that at the end of the quote.

“It isn’t so much that liberals are ignorant. It’s just that they know so many things that aren’t so.” - Ronald Wilson Reagan.


68 posted on 03/10/2016 6:58:22 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( If the word, "SENATOR" is before his name, he is part of the PROBLEM.)
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To: John Valentine

wow , just wow. You really are an elitist who think he is better than those who have a different view to you,.

Have a frigging word with yourself and get off your high box


92 posted on 03/10/2016 7:09:44 AM PST by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: John Valentine

“It’s not that the Trupettes don’t know much, even though that’s true, it’s that so much of what they do know is wrong”

You’re still not Reagan.


183 posted on 03/10/2016 7:35:30 AM PST by austinaero
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To: John Valentine

“Given the level of ignorance and self delusion rampant among the Trump supporters, it would be far preferable if they weren’t so engaged.

That so many non-Democrats ould be attracted to an unrepentant statist buffoon has come as a shock to me, and makes me fear for the future.”

BE AFRAID.


200 posted on 03/10/2016 7:38:33 AM PST by austinaero
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To: John Valentine

We have heard what you wrote before, from Obama....congratulations Mr establishment sock puppet!


249 posted on 03/10/2016 7:56:22 AM PST by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: John Valentine
I think Cruz is wrong about the engaged part but right about the ‘low information’ part, even if not strong enough.

That's because you're a low information prick who hasn't bothered to look at any poll internals. Trump wins every demographic, including college educated and high income. His supporters made up their minds months ago. Cruz/Rubio supporters are not very committed to their guy, on the other hand, and tend to make their decisions at the last minute, hence Cruz and Rubio always do well with "late deciders." They're called late deciders because their support for Cruz or Rubio reflected in the polls was always of the "maybe I'll vote for him" variety. IOW, this does not suggest that they are high information or highly engaged voters, if they haven't figured out who a candidate is until the last day or two before the votes begin.

390 posted on 03/10/2016 10:48:23 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: John Valentine
Given the level of ignorance and self delusion rampant among the Trump supporters, it would be far preferable if they weren’t so engaged.

It's too bad your candidate is losing, but that's no reason to take it out on the supporters of the winner. If Cruz is nominated he's got my vote. It's probably going to be Trump but if it isn't Cruz is going to need all the Trump voters he can get.

Insulting them is just... dumb.

478 posted on 03/10/2016 1:52:40 PM PST by MaxFlint
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