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Hillary really could lose to Trump: Her weakness with the working class is Trump’s strength
Salon ^ | March 9, 2016 | Sean Illing

Posted on 03/09/2016 4:13:49 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Clinton will have a hard time winning over voters fed up with corporate-friendly trade deals

Bernie Sanders' win in Michigan on Tuesday night was truly startling. Behind by an average of 20 points in nearly every pre-election poll, the Vermont senator rallied a diverse cross-section of voters on his way to a narrow - but revealing - victory.

The votes are still being counted, but it appears Sanders will gain 3 to 5 more delegates in Michigan than Clinton. Given the expectations, this is quite the achievement for Sanders. The results in Mississippi were far less surprising but equally important: Clinton won by a whopping margin of 66 points - 82 percent to 16 percent. That means she's likely to earn close to 28 more delegates than Sanders, extending her already sizable lead.

There are two ways to interpret the Michigan results if you're a Democrat. On the one hand, Sanders supporters can see the victory as a narrative-altering event, something that changes our perception of what's possible moving forward. Clinton has succeeded thus far thanks to her Southern firewall and her enormous advantage over Sanders with minority voters.

But Michigan suggests that Sanders has a much broader appeal in non-Southern states with diverse populations. Sanders did well with his typical demographics in Michigan, but he also won white women by five points and non-college-educated whites by 17 points....

(Excerpt) Read more at salon.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: clinton; elections; hillary; trump
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No way the Hildabeast would beat any Republican. The folks are too upset and are ready to rid the nation of the DC elite.


21 posted on 03/09/2016 4:43:51 PM PST by From The Deer Stand (Alka)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s funny though Democrats and the GOPe has been telling us for years that the only way for the Republican Party to survive nationally would be to roll over on amnesty, which would then somehow endear Latinos to us. That never made sense because Latinos, particularly the ones most concerned about amnesty, vote for Democrats, so the more of them you make into citizens, the worse it’s going to be for Republicans.

But then lo and behold, there’s this other whole group out there, called white people, and there are millions and millions of them concentrated actually in some pretty important states from an electoral standpoint, and actually their votes are very much in play, having been increasingly ignored if not insulted by the Democrats, so why wouldn’t the Republican Party want to appeal to this group instead of the phantom Latino electorate?

If Trump pulls this off, he will have absolutely destroyed this entire false narrative.


22 posted on 03/09/2016 4:49:38 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is more establishment than hillary?


23 posted on 03/09/2016 4:52:04 PM PST by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: El Cid

Absolutely agree. It is destructive to the nation, and tragically destructive to the groups they are manipulating. But hey, they get to have cool jobs, eat at trendy restaurants, be on television, and have those who are judging superficially think they are actually really smart. So maybe its worth it to them, in some immature, selfish, sad way.


24 posted on 03/09/2016 4:55:38 PM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: faucetman

Hillary has said who could be more of an outsider than the first woman president? She denies she’s any sort of establishment politician. Of course that’s absurd but she tried to tell people she’s an outsider......


25 posted on 03/09/2016 4:59:43 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
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26 posted on 03/09/2016 5:06:50 PM PST by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sorry, very sorry to say, Hillary will nuke Mister Inarticulate (trump) both in the debates and in the general.

Trump = Perot = Trump = Perot

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27 posted on 03/09/2016 5:08:15 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except for convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Heh.

Heh heh.

This is the covert admission behind all the panic over Trump. Yah, he can win the Presidency. It was this bone grating truth that was apparent from the day he announced, but the leftist Priesthood of Denial and Hysteric Blindness nattered on about the impossibility of Trump’s maverick outsider capacity to call a spade a spade keeping him in the running. This psychotic break from reality by the lefties and the oligarch controlled GOP is what will lose them the election and their ability to shape events into the near future. I just ordered a case of Orville Redenbacher’s.


28 posted on 03/09/2016 5:09:07 PM PST by Yollopoliuhqui (Smarter - Faster)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The ONLY way Trump loses to Hillary is voter fraud. The ONLY way...

Entirely possible, but the witch will never benefit from it as there will be no discernible unified nation to rule.


29 posted on 03/09/2016 5:10:46 PM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: inkfarmer

Some polls that are being quoted are polls of registered voters or just “adults” — NOT “likely voters”.

GOPe is colluding w Hillary to try to deny Trump the nomination so she won’t have to face him in the general election.

I have seen some articles to that effect.


30 posted on 03/09/2016 5:20:50 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: inkfarmer; Innovative

Here is an article about what I mentioned:

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/07/apple-ceo-tim-cook-attends-secret-meeting-with-tech-and-government-elite-to-plot-end-trump-presidential-run-report-says?AID=7236


31 posted on 03/09/2016 5:39:33 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think Trump appeals to a lot of white working class Democrats. I think I hey at least feel something is amiss with the country and Trump may be able to fix it.


32 posted on 03/09/2016 5:42:05 PM PST by Crucial (At the heart all leftidsts is the fear that the truth is bigger than themselves.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You've been asleep for awhile.

But of course you posted Trump had no chance against her in an earlier thread and post with Trump losing.

Many Trump supports like myself know that the polls showing him losing are FOS.

Best to you.

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33 posted on 03/09/2016 5:42:44 PM PST by rineaux
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

How could this be. She is so relateable. She was dirt poor when she left the White House and the poor woman is only paid $300,000 for a 20 minute speech. Who could get by on that.


34 posted on 03/09/2016 6:19:33 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Seaplaner
Sorry, very sorry to say, Hillary will nuke Mister Inarticulate (trump) both in the debates and in the general.

Ridiculous.

And as for H. Ross Perot: if he had stayed in the race the whole time instead of jumping back in 30 days before the general election, he would have won the Presidency handily, IMHO.

Even as things were, Perot still got 18% of the popular vote, which was pretty amazing for someone who hopped back in with only 4 weeks to go...

35 posted on 03/09/2016 6:28:28 PM PST by sargon
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To: inkfarmer

These are the same polls showing her winning Michigan by 20-—before Dinobernie beat her.


36 posted on 03/09/2016 6:29:31 PM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do you really think Salon would say this at this point if they thought Hillary would lose to Trump? You Trumpsters are such easy prey.


37 posted on 03/09/2016 6:48:38 PM PST by willk (everyone)
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To: willk

Now I’m a Trumpster? Hahahahaha!


38 posted on 03/09/2016 6:53:51 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump is the candidate of the working class. Hillary is the candidate of the shirking class.


39 posted on 03/10/2016 5:02:56 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: inkfarmer

I’m so confused. I thought polls said she would cream Trump? I need answers.”

National polls show Trump loses to Hillary.

Must win State polls (FL, OH, PA) show Trump beating Hillary.


40 posted on 03/10/2016 5:09:32 AM PST by JPJones
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