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New Video Shows Two Camera Angles Of LaVoy Finicum Shooting
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Posted on 03/08/2016 6:16:30 PM PST by Wilderness Conservative

Burns, OR - An FBI agent is suspected of lying about firing twice at Robert "LaVoy" Finicum and may have gotten help from four other FBI agents in covering up afterward, authorities revealed Tuesday.

The bullets didn't hit Finicum and didn't contribute to his death, but now all five unnamed agents, part of an elite national unit, are under criminal investigation by the U.S. Justice Department. Inspector General Michael Horowitz is leading the independent inquiry.

The remarkable disclosure came as a team of local investigators released findings that two state troopers shot Finicum three times in the back during the chaotic scene at a police roadblock Jan. 26. One bullet pierced his heart, an autopsy showed.

A prosecutor ruled the fatal shooting was legally justified, saying state law allows use of deadly force when officers believe a person is about to seriously injure or kill someone. Finicum kept moving his hands toward a pocket that contained a loaded handgun. Although he was shot from behind, Finicum had a trooper in front of him armed with a Taser who was thought to be in danger.

Finicum, 54, an Arizona rancher, was one of the leaders of the Jan. 2 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge near Burns.

Investigators gave no details to explain why the one FBI agent, a member of the Hostage Rescue Team, wouldn't report the two shots. They also didn't indicate what his four colleagues on the team did to warrant investigation other than saying it was related to conduct after the shooting.


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To: Wilderness Conservative

The moment that matter happens at 5:30 in the video. Lavoy gets out of the truck with his hands up and says “go ahead of shoot me”. At this point the FBI agent who denied firing fires 2 shoots to kill Lavoy. They miss him and strike the truck and back window(which is why they can’t find the “2nd bullet” because it passed through the window) Its clear that that FBI agent was assigned with a kill order and the rest of the FBI in the group knew it. Its pretty clear cut at this point that it was murder... between this new evidence and them rounding up the people that took part in the first bundy ranch stand off, if the militia doesn’t strike back they will be run into the ground. Guess the ball’s in the militia court now.


21 posted on 03/08/2016 7:13:07 PM PST by robotech master
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To: Bulwyf

Most on FR felt this was not a “pure” enough cause.

I guess that means it will be OK that the F.B.I. killed this crazy, misguided soul.

Lesson, don’t get involved with anything, there are always excuses that your back will not be covered. Better take a vote first to make sure it is approved.


22 posted on 03/08/2016 7:16:03 PM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: Wilderness Conservative

Murder.


23 posted on 03/08/2016 7:16:49 PM PST by ecomcon
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To: House Atreides

People who suck at reality and want to be told what to do.


24 posted on 03/08/2016 7:17:15 PM PST by ameribbean expat
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To: Gadsden1st

Well, they will find themselves alone soon enough when all the real men are gone because the cause wasn’t pure enough.


25 posted on 03/08/2016 7:19:32 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bulwyf; Travis McGee

Yeah, reminds me of Travis McGee.


26 posted on 03/08/2016 7:21:24 PM PST by fulltlt
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To: Wilderness Conservative

They looked like they wanted to massacre everyone in the car. The occupants played it smart to stay down and cool while they were shooting at women and children.


27 posted on 03/08/2016 7:23:22 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: Wilderness Conservative

He repeatedly stated that he wanted to talk to Grant County Sheriff Glenn Palmer. Everyone knew this before hand. Everyone knew about the travel plan beforehand. If LEOs wanted to avoid bloodshed, they should have had the sheriff at the roadblock. Everyone would likely have surrendered peacefully.


28 posted on 03/08/2016 7:32:51 PM PST by FreeInWV
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To: fulltlt

Ya, I remember him saying something about not a hill to die on. Something about a trap perhaps. It’s possible be knows something I don’t, but I think the time to act was long ago. Everyday we wait, they get stronger.


29 posted on 03/08/2016 7:33:30 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: robotech master
Question. Why did these guyz leave the refuge, thus splitting the team? Why would the bulk of the leadership all leave the refuge together? If their cause was important to them, which I believe it was, why would they not stay and fortify. Not criticizing, just so many questions. Curious why LaVoy jumped from the vehicle so quickly. So much of this doesn't make sense.

Observation. The folks that showed at the Bundy ranch and federal holding pen for the Bundy livestock took a stand and the feds appeared to have backed off. They then seemed to celebrate they'd won a standoff with the feds...am I right? They then all traveled back home thinking a job well done. Didn't any of them reason that the feds would come for them? Analyze video/audio footage to gather intel om lic plates, faces, names to investigate/issue warrants?

When Americans take a bold step such as this, the feds are not just going to forget about it. They will come. They will come in the early morning hours in full force for every single one of’m. They now have about 75 arrest between both incidents.

Any lessons here folks?

30 posted on 03/08/2016 7:35:37 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Wilderness Conservative

I thought so too but now I can see well enough and hear well enough to tell this was murder by cop not suicide by cop.


31 posted on 03/08/2016 7:37:33 PM PST by Boomer (Liberal Propaganda is like Meth. It ruins the mind and rots the teeth.)
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To: DouglasKC
What ever make of Truck that was, the manufacturer should make a commercial using it.

Five Swat guys pepper the vehicle with semi-auto assault rifles, and no one inside is even injured.

32 posted on 03/08/2016 7:37:53 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: gaijin

FWIW: that photo is heavily edited.


33 posted on 03/08/2016 7:38:54 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Wilderness Conservative

He yelled a lot about “shoot me”. They complied. I’m inclined (objectively correct me where I’m wrong) it was both an ambush _and_ suicide by cop.

Nobody is addressing the long thin narrow thing in his hand just before he got shot.


34 posted on 03/08/2016 7:40:55 PM PST by ctdonath2 (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. - Ike)
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To: Bulwyf; rey

The tactics show they are unprofessional retards. They have a badge and runnwith it without any discipline or mindness to anything like allah akbar savages.


35 posted on 03/08/2016 7:42:33 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall noshi)
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To: servantboy777
Any lessons here folks?

History repeats itself ?


36 posted on 03/08/2016 7:45:00 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ctdonath2

Yes and no, he was negociating to surrender himself to the Sheriff, to proper jurisdiction.


37 posted on 03/08/2016 7:45:02 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall noshi)
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To: lavaroise

Bloodthirsty animals.


38 posted on 03/08/2016 7:47:52 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Wilderness Conservative; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; ...

At no point in history has any government ever wanted its people to be defenseless for any good reason ~ nully's son

The biggest killer of mankind

Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you must threaten to report me to the Mods if I don't add you to the list...

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...

39 posted on 03/08/2016 7:50:46 PM PST by null and void (This is "They live", and most people would rather fight you than put on the glasses...)
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To: Bulwyf

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_NhV2JHtD5s


40 posted on 03/08/2016 7:51:49 PM PST by fulltlt
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