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Better Business Bureau Confirms: Trump University Had a D- Rating
Townhall.com ^ | March 8, 2016 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 03/08/2016 11:46:54 AM PST by Kaslin

During last week's Fox News GOP debate in Detroit, Donald Trump was confronted by anchor Megyn Kelly about Trump University. 

Trump claimed during the debate Trump University received an A-rating from the Better Business Bureau. As Kelly pointed out in an exchange with Trump at the debate, that is false. Trump then claimed the BBB faxed him in the middle of the debate to confirm the A-rating. They didn't. Trump's people handed moderators a sheet of paper and claimed it was from the BBB to verify the A-rating. It wasn't. 

Megyn Kelly EXPOSES Donald's TRUMP University SCAMS! - GOP Debate

Trump University came under fire more than a decade ago when thousands of students issued complaints about fraud in the program. Turns out, Trump University was a massive scam.

Trump University was never a university. When the “school” was established in 2005, the New York State Education Department warned that it was in violation of state law for operating without a NYSED license. Trump ignored the warnings. (The institution is now called, ahem, “Trump Entrepreneur Initiative.”) Cue lawsuits. 

Trump University is currently the defendant in three lawsuits — two class-action lawsuits filed in California, and one filed in New York by then-attorney general Eric Schneiderman, who told CNN’s New Day in 2013: “We started looking at Trump University and discovered that it was a classic bait-and-switch scheme. It was a scam, starting with the fact that it was not a university.”

Today, the BBB is confirming that they a) did not fax Trump in the middle of the debate b) Trump University did in fact receive a D- rating and didn't improve to an A-rating until nearly 10 years after it was established. From a statement released by BBB (bolding is mine): 

1. BBB did not send a document of any kind to the Republican debate site last Thursday evening. The document presented to debate moderators did not come from BBB that night.

2. Trump University does not currently have an A rating with BBB. The BBB Business Review for this company has continually been “No Rating” since September 2015.  Prior to that, it fluctuated between D- and A+.

3. The document posted on social media on Thursday night was not a current BBB Business Review of Trump University.  It appeared to be part of a Business Review from 2014.

4. BBB ratings are based on information we obtain about a business, including complaints received from the public.  The reporting period is three years.  Detailed information about BBB ratings is available on all 5.3 million Business Reviews on our website, bbb.org.

5. At no point did BBB change the rating of Trump University based upon a demand from anyone.  BBB followed its standard evaluation process applicable to all businesses.

6. During the period when Trump University appeared to be active in the marketplace, BBB received multiple customer complaints about this business. These complaints affected the Trump University BBB rating, which was as low as D- in 2010.  As the company appeared to be winding down, after 2013, no new complaints were reported. Complaints over three years old automatically rolled off of the Business Review, according to BBB policy. As a result, over time, Trump University’s BBB rating went to an A in July 2014 and then to an A+ in January 2015.

7.  Trump University has never been a BBB Accredited Business.  The document handed to the debate moderators on Thursday night could not have been an actual “Better Business Bureau accreditation notice” for this business.

Trump University only received an A+ rating right before it shut down and after years of complaints. In 2013, the year the rating improved, Trump University was sued by New York's Attorney General for $40 million. Donald Trump Sued for Fraud N Y Attorney General Says Trump University Students 'Fleeced'

Trump admitted during the debate to refunding thousands of students who signed up for his program and a class action lawsuit, which includes more than 5000 people, is still ongoing. 

I'll leave you with this: Sherri - 60 Seconds


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: albertogonzales; bbbisuseless; donaldtrump; gonzalocuriel; laraza; moosebitsister; notaccredited; presidentdonaldtrump; sidebarspam; trump; trumpbaggage; trumpfraud; trumpscam; trumpu; trumpuniversity; trumpvalues
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To: Albion Wilde

And yet Trump was boasting of an A+ rating!!!


81 posted on 03/08/2016 1:39:38 PM PST by ontap
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To: austinaero

when this came up I checked BBB and put both Trump University and the other name and the info I got was, This business is not accredited by the BBB, there was no rating.


82 posted on 03/08/2016 1:41:29 PM PST by tiki ( r)
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To: Kaslin

Katie, Katie, Katie. Rubio isn’t going to surge no matter what girl !


83 posted on 03/08/2016 1:44:30 PM PST by moehoward
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To: ontap
And yet Trump was boasting of an A+ rating!!!

But cruzbots don't want the lies to end, so...

See post 46.

84 posted on 03/08/2016 1:50:20 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Albion Wilde
Yea! All those lies about money to Hillary, Harry Reid, Nancy Polosi, Planned Parenthood, etc. ,etc. ,etc.
85 posted on 03/08/2016 1:56:52 PM PST by ontap
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To: ontap

Polosi? Your political analysis is as astute as your spelling. Why not spend your time posting positive things about your candidate instead of aiming for the threads about candidates you don’t like and spewing negativity? Even Jim Robinson has asked for this common courtesy on this private web site. You’re not conviincing anyone with snark and spite.


86 posted on 03/08/2016 2:46:37 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Albion Wilde
So your saying no Trumper is bad mouthing Ted...notice you are adept at finding spelling errors...not so much at disproving allegations...funny how you Trumpies consider anything negative about what is said about Trump to be insults...even when we are stating facts about Trumps past or actually quoting Trump himself. Again eight months ago he was a liberal democrat. Oh! by the way does constantly calling Ted a liar fall under your spewing negativity!!! /p>
87 posted on 03/08/2016 3:21:13 PM PST by ontap
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To: PIF

Most of what you say is opinion which you are entitled to. As to comparing BBB ratings with other learning institutions can tell us about how Trump stacks up against the norm for start up schools.
As you mentioned the fake note is alleged and has not been proven. The school was worth a minuscule amount in comparison other Trump investments and to tear someone down 100 percent for such a small unproven charge says something about Megyn Kelly the media and the Trump haters. Give it up this is a non issue and will go nowhere. It is really small potatoes.


88 posted on 03/08/2016 3:21:48 PM PST by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: ontap

You’re absolutely correct. Anything posted that isn’t 100% supportive of tRump is either called span or a lie and the person who posted is either a troll or a paid operative for Sen. Cruz. They live in their own little reality, the misnamed “tRump Rally Thread”, where they tell each other how great they are and how great the Donald is.

Even though it is the Donald who is the Crony Capitalist, they have convinced themselves that it is in fact Sen. Cruz who is the “insider”. It is pathetic.


89 posted on 03/08/2016 3:27:04 PM PST by beandog (Trump is a Crony Capitialist)
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To: beandog

Notice the first thing out of his mouth was I misspelled Pelosi’s name....never got around to disputing any of my “analysis”. Nothing one points out about Trump matters to them.


90 posted on 03/08/2016 3:31:48 PM PST by ontap
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To: orinoco

Just goes to your Idol’s character is all. And there will be a lot of “small potatoes” in His Reign.


91 posted on 03/08/2016 3:40:39 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: CA Conservative
So the “A+” rating Trump was talking about only came about because the company had basically been forced out of business by the complaints, and since they had not been doing business for more than 3 years, all of the complaints had rolled off the record.

Correct. And I recall that during the debate he said that TU had a D- for a while because they really didn't care. But then they supplied / corrected info to the BBB and the rating was revised. Now we find out that didn't happen at all, the ratings only improved because the complaints rolled off the record as time advanced. Pants on fire, Trump.

92 posted on 03/08/2016 3:49:28 PM PST by RedWhiteBlue (Mama tried)
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93 posted on 03/08/2016 3:59:49 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: PIF

You hope for a lot more small potatoes! I dont have idols. None of the other candidates have accomplished much compared to Trump. And the character flaws of other candidates have been exposed such as lying and hypocrisy.


94 posted on 03/08/2016 4:01:11 PM PST by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: orinoco

You Trumpeters are all the same.


95 posted on 03/08/2016 4:10:26 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Red Steel
What what the complaints stopped? ...ME-Gyn and Cruoozers don't want that.

What the fact that the organization basically ceased operations in 2011 and achieved an A 3 years later in 2014? Maybe because no students equal no complaints?

96 posted on 03/08/2016 4:24:08 PM PST by Starstruck (I'm usually sarcastic. Deal with it.)
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To: PIF

You just lost the argument. You only have name calling. Give it up.


97 posted on 03/08/2016 4:47:05 PM PST by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: orinoco

Yes but it was a name I made up the day your idol announced and has since been picked up and applied elsewhere. It is not a bad name as it encapsulates what and how you guys defend/support the man - loud and bold.


98 posted on 03/09/2016 1:41:58 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

Your opinion of Trump seems personal although you dont know him personally. Trump just gathered momentum in this race by winning Michigan, Mississippi and Hawaii. Give it up!


99 posted on 03/09/2016 2:12:23 AM PST by orinoco (Orinoco)
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To: orinoco

I have a lot of opinions on politicians as do most people - so what? And it is not necessary to make another straw-man argument about knowing someone personally. He’s a loser like the rest of the lot. Get over it.


100 posted on 03/09/2016 3:05:13 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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