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Time for GOP Establishment (& Trump Supporters) to Unite Behind Ted Cruz
AmmoLand ^ | March 7, 2016 | David Limbaugh

Posted on 03/07/2016 3:34:24 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Mitt Romney's speech against Donald Trump is not likely to win many converts. Romney's remarks will just further vindicate and entrench Trump supporters.

Romney, though a good man, is quintessentially GOP establishment and has shown, by his speech, that he still doesn't understand the role he and his colleagues have played in bringing about the Trump surge.

During campaign season, these guys always seem to get it. They profess to understand how destructive President Obama's agenda is, but once they're elected, they lose their will to fight, which makes many conservatives believe they didn't believe their own rhetoric in the first place.

I know, Republicans tell us that the GOP leadership has done all it can to stop Obama but there's only so much a congressional majority can do. That's also what they said about congressional minorities when they were a minority.

Regardless, they haven't presented their case to the American people with conviction during the past seven years, except in the runup to elections. They didn't point out Obama's evil intentions and often denounced those who did. They didn't rally around Ted Cruz, Mike Lee or a handful of others who tried to stymie Obama. Instead, they chose to ridicule and marginalize these fighters.

Even to this day, the establishment fails to understand the legitimate concerns millions of Americans have over illegal immigration.

Establishment types arrogantly and unfairly slander border hawks as nativists, suggesting their opposition to open borders is race-based.

It's not about race; it's about our national sovereignty, the rule of law, protecting jobs, protecting Americans against criminal elements and jihadis, and stanching an invasion of people who will further burden our welfare state -- not assimilate, not embrace the American idea -- and vote almost solely Democratic.

A sovereign nation must control its borders and encourage immigrants to assimilate and embrace the unique American experiment. But Democrats are for flooding the borders for all the wrong reasons, and large swaths of the Republican establishment have affirmatively aided and abetted them.

We've watched as Republicans have allowed many of Obama's budgets to sail through under the radar, on the pretense of just waiting for the next election. Our guys don't even talk about entitlement reform anymore, though they were telling us just a few years ago that we were about to go bankrupt.

The Republican Party has been so tone-deaf to these real concerns that some Republican voters are furious enough to have chosen a wildly flawed solution in Donald Trump. One person on Twitter said she is so disgusted she is going to vote Democratic for the first time in 40 years.

It is tragic that true conservatives, however, are being lumped in and punished for the betrayals of centrist Republicans. Trump supporters are adamant that no elected official escape the blame. Their solution is to burn the house down and rebuild it around Trump, even though they can't be sure what he'd do when elected.

People wonder why they would turn to someone like Trump. The GOP, after all, has stood for moral principles, manners and adult behavior, and Trump seems to exhibit none of those things. In many ways, he is the opposite of conservative principles, in demeanor, lifestyle and his personal conduct in the campaign.

But in their disgust at the Republican establishment, they are throwing out true conservatives and also certain conservative principles and values, as if all of conservatism has been tainted by a party that betrayed its base.

How else does it make sense that even valid, troubling criticisms of Trump seem to help him more than hurt him?

I think it's because this disaffected class of voters wants someone unorthodox enough to break the rules, someone brash enough not to be deterred by the niceties that have prevented establishment Republicans from distinguishing themselves from Obama in bold colors rather than pale pastels. They're seem not only not offended but invigorated by someone who'll hurl profanities and refuse to apologize even when he owes an apology, because they think it's going to take someone like that to resist pressure to betray them once he's elected.

And though the establishment has finally awakened to the intensity of the discontentment among the party rank and file, it still doesn't believe the angst is legitimate. The establishment is still in bitter denial and wouldn't support a person advocating many of Trump's ideas even if he were a paragon of moral rectitude.

If establishment Republicans were the least bit repentant about their betrayals, truly believed in the conservative principles embodied in their party's platform and were realistic about stopping Trump, they'd quit posturing and unite behind Ted Cruz.

For the way to defeat Donald Trump is not to deny him a majority and steal the nomination from him at the convention; that really would be the end of the party. It is to embrace the closest thing to a Reagan conservative since Ronald Reagan, before it's too late. But truth be told, they probably hate Cruz worse than they hate Trump.

I wish Trump supporters would consider this when they wrongly lump Cruz in with the establishment, and I wish they'd simmer down long enough to recognize that Cruz represents the answer to their complaints far more than Trump -- and with none of the baggage.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; cruz; limbaugh; tedcruz; trump
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To: datura
That is NOT going to happen any time soon.

It might not even happen once there is a GOP nominee.

241 posted on 03/07/2016 5:38:04 PM PST by nopardons ( VOTE CRUZ AND LOSE AMERICA FOREVER)
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242 posted on 03/07/2016 5:43:27 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: stockpirate

Here’s all you need to know about Ted Cruz and his wife.

http://lettersfromthegulag.blogspot.com/2015/12/ted-and-heidi-cruz-introduction.html?m=1


243 posted on 03/07/2016 5:45:16 PM PST by stockpirate (We must burn down the republican party, to save it for “We the People” (Palin Trump is the 1st wav)
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To: nopardons

No doubt about it. There are some Cruz supporters on FR who have posted that they will not vote for Trump. I think they are making a mistake.

I am a Cruz supporter because he is the most conservative candidate running. I’ve also been saying for months that Trump is my #2 choice, and that if he is the nominee I will happily pull the lever for him. I’ve also said that virtually every Cruz supporter I know (by that I mean personally know, not some poster on a website who may or may not be who they say they are, and for all I know can just be saying something to stir up shit) has said that if Trump is the nominee they will vote for Trump.


244 posted on 03/07/2016 5:45:42 PM PST by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Enlightened1

all about Cruz and his wife.

http://lettersfromthegulag.blogspot.com/2015/12/ted-and-heidi-cruz-introduction.html?m=1


245 posted on 03/07/2016 5:46:18 PM PST by stockpirate (We must burn down the republican party, to save it for “We the People” (Palin Trump is the 1st wav)
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To: Smokin' Joe

ARe there record turnouts at Cruz rallies? Are there sky high ratings for Cruz appearances on networks? Thx. for an honest answer.


246 posted on 03/07/2016 5:48:37 PM PST by georgiegirl
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

This is true.

Building a North American Community
http://www.cfr.org/canada/building-north-american-community/p8102

She is listed as one of the co-authors of the report prepared for the Council of Foreign Relations.

She and Ted both worked in the Bush Admin. Ted didn’t say anything about being against this union. I still haven’t heard him denounce the North American Union. No one ever asks him about Heidi’s work on this union.
She also worked for Goldman Sachs in a high position. They gave her the job right after Ted was elected Senator.

They are a power couple just like Bill & Hillary.

Ted & Heidi were at the apartment of two gay guys soliciting gay donors. The apartment was the same one where a much younger man was found dead of a drug overdose in the tub, a few months or so earlier. The only reason we know about this meeting is because someone taped Cruz saying that he was worried about Trump’s finger on the button, not Hillary’s or Obama’s but Trump’s. When the NY Times wrote the article about the meeting, Ted’s first reaction was to deny it, but when the audio came out, he couldn’t deny it.


247 posted on 03/07/2016 5:55:59 PM PST by FR_addict (Ryan needs to go!)
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To: Solson
Cruz is establishment and in 2nd place and cannot win the general.

Funny, "cannot win the general" is what the pollsters say about Donald Trump and his nosebleed negatives among the g-pop.

I can see Trump, btw, making the same mistake Beastwoman's first senatorial opponent did, of being "mean" to poor widdle Hee-a-ree: She might break down and cry, he's so mean, boo-hoo-hoo tears of a woman ..... Game over.

Whoever takes the Beastwoman on has to have impeccable deportment; Trump's not effective if he's not blowing and going and slanging and schlonging. Beastie can negate Trump with one widdle cwy.

248 posted on 03/07/2016 6:14:55 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: manc

They are too stupid to see it.


249 posted on 03/07/2016 6:25:37 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Many Cruz supporters, on FR, say that they will NEVER vote for Trump.


250 posted on 03/07/2016 6:27:55 PM PST by nopardons ( VOTE CRUZ AND LOSE AMERICA FOREVER)
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To: nopardons

Show me.


251 posted on 03/07/2016 6:28:26 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Solson
Why is the establishment lining up behind Cruz?

They aren't. They hate him. He is not their "Judas horse", Marco is. (Now that Jeb's out.) The GOP-E totally hate Cruz, esp. after he directed some National Republican Senatorial Campaign (NRSC) funds two-three years ago to Tea Party challengers of old GOP-E bulls, one of whom was Mitch McConnell himself. The Old Guard totally flamed Cruz.

They LOOOOAAAATTTHHHHHE Cruz.

In fact, just guessing (and Rush Limbaugh put this up, too), the current GOP-E leaders would rather try to do a "deal" with The Donald. He's made it tough for them, but dealing with Ted Cruz is a total DOA non-starter.

Heidi's CFR work is a totally different kettle of fish, and I've seen nothing tying her old man to an endorsement of any NAU nonsense, esp. after voters spanked Dubya on that subject 10 years ago.

252 posted on 03/07/2016 6:30:26 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Time for GOP Establishment (& Trump Supporters) to Unite Behind Ted Cruz


253 posted on 03/07/2016 6:32:48 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: nopardons; 2ndDivisionVet
Many Cruz supporters, on FR, say that they will NEVER vote for Trump.

That certainly isn't true in my case: I've said here in FR, weeks and weeks ago (before all the screaming and yelling), that if Ted Cruz didn't get the nomination, I'd support Donald Trump. There are reasons, including polling (higher negatives and head-to-head polling versus Beastwoman), why Trump would be a weaker choice IMHO, but of course he's infinitely preferable to the most evil couple in America.

And I include the beauteous Tashfeen </s> of the dead-shark eyes in that comparo. They only killed a few dozen people; how many bog bodies did the Klintonx leave behind in Arkansas and Fort Marcy Park?

254 posted on 03/07/2016 6:37:44 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: lentulusgracchus

I’ve been thinking the same.....
Clinton might even just up and REFUSE to debate the big mean sexist bully.
.....And her fans will applaud her for it.
ugh


255 posted on 03/07/2016 6:41:28 PM PST by mowowie (`)
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To: manc; Catsrus
Cruz is getting the backing for the establishment

Who says so? I've seen one Trump contract video of zero provenience, hanging out there in space on the Interwebs, and that's it. Where are the guys who were at the table? The incisive news reporting .... oh, wait, that'd be the MSM. Sorry.

Well, who's saying it? Donald Trump I can see: Vote for me, Ted's working for the Scum of the Earth.

Funny, but NOBODY in Texas believes that. Go on, ask them. We've got a Texas FR board that's very active. Just ask them.

256 posted on 03/07/2016 6:43:19 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Read through this thread!

It has been p0osted on this thread and many others as well.

257 posted on 03/07/2016 6:46:43 PM PST by nopardons ( VOTE CRUZ AND LOSE AMERICA FOREVER)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I didn't say that YOU said that you wouldn't vote for Trump, so stop twisting my words!

Go read through this thread, you WILL see that what I said about Cruz supporters is true.

And as fat as Cruz beating Hillary, that's THE most ridiculous, far fetched, patently ridiculous statement by anyone EVER made!

Hillary plays by her own rules, Cruz doesn't think well on his feet, isn't capable of doing anything other than repeating memorized lines, and she'll eat him alive...faster than what she did to Rick Lazio!

The is NO WAY that Cruz gets the disaffected Dems, blacks, blue collar workers, etc.! He is a stiff, cold, uncharismatic, PREACHY, and he gets too far into the weeds.

People who claim that Trump would be "weaker" against her, don't know what they're talking about and aren't paying attention.

258 posted on 03/07/2016 6:56:20 PM PST by nopardons ( VOTE CRUZ AND LOSE AMERICA FOREVER)
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To: papertyger
Trump can. Cruz can't. It's that simple.

The MSM said the same thing about Ronnie in 1980. I was surprised out of my socks when Ronnie started sweeping on election night ... I was ecstatic.

The Media lied. They lied to us like dogs. They lied like dogs, lying on a rug with fleas. They are such scum, they are loathesome, only this time we have the transcripts of the Journolist (courtesy of our Tucker Carlson) and can see them lying and plotting to lie, pouring poison in our ears like the evil brother in Hamlet.

How were we to know in 1980 that RR would win huge, that he would blow out the Carter Communists and their MSM facilitators and agitprop men? I believed them. If Roger Mudd or Baba Wawa told me something, I assumed integrity and truth lay behind it. I believed the results of the push-polls, the edited interviews, the spun and slanted reports telling me what lowlife Hollywood trash Ronald Bedtime for Bonzo Reagan and his rigid, snooty wife were. They told me stuff, what did I know?

They sooooo lied!

So, you young and stupid and ready to get reloaded with the old Lie #43, Your Guy Can't Get Elected He's Too Extreme?

259 posted on 03/07/2016 6:57:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: lentulusgracchus
You just contradicted yourself ! LOL

Go read your post to me.

260 posted on 03/07/2016 6:58:35 PM PST by nopardons ( VOTE CRUZ AND LOSE AMERICA FOREVER)
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