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Why Donald Trump's Tax Returns May Prove He's Not That Rich
Fortune ^ | 03/03/2016 | by Shawn Tully

Posted on 03/03/2016 8:39:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The GOP frontrunner appears to have mixed up income and revenue.

On two occasions, this writer has spent weeks striving to demystify the Vatican’s finances. Now I’m attempting to solve the riddle of Donald Trump’s income and net worth. Pope Francis, who recently exchanged barbs with Trump over immigration, has bravely promised to open the Vatican’s books. Trump sounds less righteous in claiming that he won’t publicly release his tax returns while he’s being audited by the IRS, but does pledge to eventually make the highly anticipated filings public.

Until then, voters can glean a great deal of information from two sets of documents the Trump campaign has already provided: A balance sheet released in June, when Trump declared his candidacy for President, and a 92-page Personal Financial Disclosure (PFD) form submitted to the Federal Election Commission a month later.

Neither document is as telling as a tax return would be. But when closely read together, you can learn a great deal about Trump’s financial affairs. Here’s the most concerning thing I learned: Trump appears to have overstated his income, by a lot, which could be the reason he has so far tried to avoid releasing his returns.

In July, Trump’s campaign in the press release that accompanied the financial filing stated that the candidate made $362 million in 2014. In fact, a close reading of the two documents, especially the PFD, shows that number is actually Trump’s revenues, and not his income, which should be after salaries, IT costs, interest and all other expenses. Indeed, the filing specifically labels these items under such headings as “revenue,” “sales,” “royalties,” “commissions” and other categories—clearly designating them as gross receipts rather than taxable income.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: boohoo; envy; taxreturns; trump; wealth
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To: MarvinStinson

What convinced me is that is wife is way better looking than me and SHE IS YOUNGER. How can anyone vote for that guy.


21 posted on 03/03/2016 8:44:22 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: stars & stripes forever

A BILLION HERE, A BILLION THERE ... "WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?" (Hillary Clinton)


22 posted on 03/03/2016 8:44:29 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

My guess is the corrupt IRS gave the info to the GOPe and Romney because they work for the benefit of liberals.

If Romney has this information illegally, he should be prosecuted.


23 posted on 03/03/2016 8:44:45 AM PST by GOPJ (Corrupt white liberal elites propped up by a criminal underclass dancing on burning cars.- Demorats)
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To: SeekAndFind

So much concern about about speculations. So little concern about voters.


24 posted on 03/03/2016 8:44:53 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: SeekAndFind
From your bio: A long time Long Islander who lives and works here in the IT industry!

How many foreign born ITs have you hired or do you recruit them for other companies?

Most Trump haters like you probably depend on illegals or foreign workers.

25 posted on 03/03/2016 8:45:11 AM PST by Grampa Dave (, Voting to elect Trump as president is the only known cure for chronic TDS!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Gope will spend a billion dollars to destroy Trump. It’s doing nothing but digging a deeper graves for themselves. To think I held my nose and voted for M cCain and then that piece of shit Romney on tv right now!


26 posted on 03/03/2016 8:46:03 AM PST by Dogbert41 (All the days of my life were written in your book before there was one of them!)
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To: Grampa Dave

RE: How many foreign born ITs have you hired or do you recruit them for other companies?

I am an IT consultant who work for myself. Why is that relevant to this thread?


27 posted on 03/03/2016 8:46:34 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
salaries, IT costs, interest and all other expenses. Indeed, the filing specifically labels these items under such headings as “revenue,” “sales,” “royalties,” “commissions” and other categories—clearly designating them as gross receipts rather than taxable income.

Surely all of that is paid for out of corporate accounts and not his personal accounts. Why would he want the headache and personal liability for hiring folks individually.

28 posted on 03/03/2016 8:46:36 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: SeekAndFind

Like A tax return reflects all his assets and their value!!!...wonder how much property and sales taxes he pays?


29 posted on 03/03/2016 8:46:36 AM PST by goodnesswins (Alinsky.....it's what's for dinner)
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To: SeekAndFind

Trump’s wealth makes difference to me. Not one bit.


30 posted on 03/03/2016 8:46:51 AM PST by austinaero
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To: SeekAndFind

There is only one 1040

There innumerable 1120’s


31 posted on 03/03/2016 8:47:06 AM PST by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....carson is the kinder gentler trump.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Read the comments that accompany the article.
They take it apart piece by piece.


32 posted on 03/03/2016 8:47:23 AM PST by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: goodnesswins

a tax return unless you have a stocks will show you nothing


33 posted on 03/03/2016 8:47:43 AM PST by scooby321
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To: harwood

The Donald is an alpha male ... and that scares the pink panties off of rinos.


34 posted on 03/03/2016 8:47:51 AM PST by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Grampa Dave

RE: Most Trump haters like you probably depend on illegals or foreign workers.

I am NOT a Trump hater. He is NOT my first choice. I’ll vote for him over Hillary/Sanders anytime.

But hey, he is NOT sacred. All potential flaws should be discussed. The price of liberty is always VIGILANCE.

If you worship him, that is your prerogative. I won;t tell you what or what not to like.


35 posted on 03/03/2016 8:48:45 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

A Tax return does NOT show your wealth!!! How STUPID do they think we are??


36 posted on 03/03/2016 8:49:22 AM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: CaptainK

RE: Read the comments that accompany the article.
They take it apart piece by piece.

Precisely. If you disagree with the article, TELL US WHY.

Unfortunately, there are Trump fans who find it better to attack someone who posts the article and go personal.

See Post #25 above as one example.


37 posted on 03/03/2016 8:50:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: pgkdan

I was so shocked when I heard this that I IMMEDIATELY switched my vote.


38 posted on 03/03/2016 8:50:07 AM PST by MarvinStinson
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, Shawn Tully, when you can tell your readers where YOU park your 747 with your name on the side of it, you can criticize Trump’s wealth.

I posted in another thread that Romney’s speech is sour grapes — wealth envy.


39 posted on 03/03/2016 8:50:14 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind; Jim Robinson
You are a card carrying 2016 Zombies for Cruz. Do you get paid for each anti Trump post you make by the illegal industry or the IT industry wanting cheap foreign ITs.


40 posted on 03/03/2016 8:50:22 AM PST by Grampa Dave (, Voting to elect Trump as president is the only known cure for chronic TDS!)
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