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Death of a salesman: If Trump becomes Prez, his supporters will soon experience epic disillusionment
The New York Daily News ^ | February 27, 2016 | Josh Greenman

Posted on 02/28/2016 3:17:10 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Remember when Barack Obama promised the world in 2008, only to leave some enthusiasts bereft after he failed to close Guantanamo, much less slow the rise of the oceans?

If we elect a President Donald Trump, you ain't seen nothing yet when it comes to disillusionment.

Imagine the fury among his supporters when their outsized hero is exposed as a huckster who cashes the check as soon as the car is off the lot.

The brash billionaire has sold I-can-fix-it-just-you-watch pledges to millions of voters enraged about a steady stream of hollow political promises. To them, Trump towers as the man who means what he says and who will finally, after a long line of empty suits, deliver.

Fully 43% of Republican voters see him as the candidate most likely to get things done in Washington -- more than double the number who have confidence in his next closest rival.....

(Excerpt) Read more at nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativecrackup; ourdailytds; ripconservatism; supertuesdaybaby; trump; trumpvalues; trumpzombies
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To: backwoods-engineer

Strength is not of itself a bad or good thing. It’s a resource that can be put to bad or good purposes.

Donald has proposed a number of things that are constitutionally unviable. My question is, however, where have those things gone? I’ve noticed they tend to quietly slip from view. I think Donald may act in haste, repent at leisure, but he does repent.


141 posted on 02/28/2016 4:30:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DouglasKC
The Art of the Deal: ""You can't con people, at least not for long," Trump writes. "You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you can't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on."

Well so far we've seen the con, the excitement, the promotion and press and hyperbole. So are we haven't seen him explain how he's going to deliver.

142 posted on 02/28/2016 4:32:26 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Pelham

Schwarzenegger was a Kennedy.


143 posted on 02/28/2016 4:33:10 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Forrest Trump photo Forrest Trump.jpg
144 posted on 02/28/2016 4:33:11 PM PST by County Agent Hank Kimball (Trust Fund Donnie Trump thinks "Nuclear Triad" is a death metal trio.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I see a Donald who, in the big picture, will respect the constitution once he becomes aware through competent advice that it impinges, because he still respects America enough to do that, but still will vigorously look for ways to get things through. “Common people MIGHT think it unconstitutional” probably won’t fly with Donald.


145 posted on 02/28/2016 4:33:21 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“I’m sure Cali and New York are worlds apart in policy preferences”

Not as far as the GOPe goes.

One of the GOPe stooges insisting that Arnold had to be chosen over the far better Tom McClintock was Hugh Hewitt, who has been involved in the debates.


146 posted on 02/28/2016 4:33:39 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio (R-Amnesty). the GOP elite's cabana boy.)
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To: DoodleDawg
Well so far we've seen the con, the excitement, the promotion and press and hyperbole. So are we haven't seen him explain how he's going to deliver.

If he's going to be fighting to implement his agenda why in the heck would he telegraph his moves to his opponents now?

147 posted on 02/28/2016 4:34:05 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: annieokie

I’m curious how Trump’s detractors are going to feel if he does close the border & kick the illegals out & crushes ISIS.

Hope you have a happy Super Tuesday :)


148 posted on 02/28/2016 4:34:19 PM PST by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: DoodleDawg

Well Donald seems to be trying, and he has come up with some nice manifestos.

He knows he is under pressure to perform. He’s not a lazy goof off.


149 posted on 02/28/2016 4:34:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
". . . from outside of the existing power structure to do it? "

Seems like you have one warped view of "the power structure". No one is more at the mercy of the nobility than a developer and Trump saying that whenever someone calls and asks for a donation, he donates, makes that clear.

For all the froth that's made over Real Estate developers, the fact of the matter is they work within a box ths size and shape of which is dictated to them by the Local, State, and Federal, nobility. Some grease enough palms to alter the smape of the box a bit, but most just deal with the reality that politicians have the ultimate say over every aspect of what they do for a living.

So, if you want some guy who is working at a carwash and therefore isn't "in the existing power structure", fine put your money where your mouth is and get them ready for 2020.

150 posted on 02/28/2016 4:35:12 PM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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To: JimSEA

“Deporting the people he wants to deport will be a time consuming process. “

Yeah, just look at how much time it took President Eisenhower to do it... oh, wait, nevermind...


151 posted on 02/28/2016 4:36:31 PM PST by Pelham (Marco Rubio (R-Amnesty). the GOP elite's cabana boy.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well Donald seems to be trying, and he has come up with some nice manifestos.

He's come up with some great promises but no clues as to how he will accomplish it.

152 posted on 02/28/2016 4:36:53 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DiogenesLamp

My souring of Cruz started with his vote for the Corker Bill. I believe that he was allowed to vote against it in cloture, because it already had enough votes to pass. I believe he voted for it after that, because he’s for it. The reason he gave for voting for it was complete BS.

His vote for and against TPA was also strange. I don’t know what ended up happening with TPP. I lost interest by that point.

In his campaign, he started going wrong with me with the Voter Violation bit. Then what happened with Carson during the Iowa vote showed me that he is not who he says he is or portrays himself to be.

I think he imploded his campaign right then and there.

Some people say he didn’t do anything here, and it was his campaign that did it. But he is responsible in the end for what his campaign does, and he held no one accountable. He then later lied about this event at a SC press conference where he said all that happened was they passed along a news story. That isn’t all that happened, and Cruz knows it. There would have been no need to apologize to Carson if that was all that happened.

And then I have watched on this website people attack Carson, who did nothing, while defending Cruz, who victimized Carson, and I just really was not able to stomach it.

Beyond that he’s done a few other odd campaign related things that just don’t add up with me.

The result of all this is basically me viewing him as a weak candidate that i don’t trust.

Despite all of that, I would still vote for him if he is the nominee. But I do not believe that I’d be able to say the same about Rubio.

I still view Cruz as a better candidate and man than Rubio.


153 posted on 02/28/2016 4:37:02 PM PST by chris37 (heartless)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have you read his books?


154 posted on 02/28/2016 4:37:58 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: DoodleDawg

Well it all boils down to trying to get it through Congress and then not getting it knocked down in court.

Here’s where having his parade will help.


155 posted on 02/28/2016 4:38:14 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump never served in Vietnam Nam. Those of my contemporaries who have served in the military all support Trump.


156 posted on 02/28/2016 4:39:41 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Simply compare to either first term Senator.

Not too bright, are ya? You speak of saying stupid things, and then you post a link to a real estate portfolio to compare to this resume:

Graduated cum laude from Princeton University in 1992
Graduated magna cum laude from Harvard Law School in 1995
1992 U.S. National Debate Champion representing Princeton
1995 World Debating Championship semi-finalist representing Harvard
Law clerk to Chief Justice William Rehnquist
Solicitor General of Texas from 2003 to 2008, the longest tenure in Texas history
Authored over 80 SCOTUS briefs
Presented over 40 oral arguments before SCOTUS
(In the landmark case of District of Columbia v. Heller, Cruz assembled a coalition of 31 states in defense of the principle that the 2nd Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms... Defended the Ten Commandments monument on the Texas State Capitol grounds... Defended the recitation of the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools... Defended the State of Texas against an attempt by the International Court of Justice to re-open the criminal convictions of 51 murderers on death row throughout the United States...)
Director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission
Domestic Policy Advisor to U.S. President George W. Bush on the 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign

Cruz is under 50, Trump is almost 70 and had to get a hundred million from daddy to get started on that portfolio.

157 posted on 02/28/2016 4:40:36 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: TheStickman

“I’m curious how Trump’s detractors are going to feel if he does close the border & kick the illegals out & crushes ISIS.”

AND nominates a TRUE conservative to the SC, and junks Obamacare. I will be the first to apologize.

Don’t hold your breath


158 posted on 02/28/2016 4:40:39 PM PST by Cyman (Orange Gumby folowers, easily recognizable because they know nothing about conservatism)
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To: GOPJ

There are no “common sense” restrictions to the first amendment.


159 posted on 02/28/2016 4:40:52 PM PST by Oklahoma
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You betcha! And I would be gloating with an I told you so if I wasn’t affected, too.


160 posted on 02/28/2016 4:41:21 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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