Posted on 02/27/2016 6:00:23 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
“I am amazed at the fact that every time Trump is faced with historical artifacts, he displays an absolutely unbelievable ignorance “
The vast majority of people who will vote for him and elect him president are similarly afflicted.
What you are learning - you’re almost there - you correctly observed - you just need to commit it to knowledge...what you are learning is that a politician who is successful yet does not possess the pretentious educational trappings of his effete competitors can appeal to the majority of voters who are not scholars.
It’s a classic paradigm shift. You correctly identify it, but so far fail to learn from it because you don’t yet believe your own eyes.
Just because you are likely smarter than the average voter doesn’t mean you are “right” in the sense that folks should vote the way you do.
Trump, in my estimation, will get a majority of Republicans to vote for him (for many reasons, not just this one) and will also rip a large chunk of democrat voters for whom his act (or reality, it doesn’t really matter) appeals.
I think that Trump will be a better president that anyone else in the field right now. His is not an intellectual appeal like Rubio, or Cruz.
Intellectuals have gotten us 19T in debt and a tyrannical government.
That’s not a historical artifact I’d like preserved. Rubio and Cruz will continue the status quo strangulation of what is great about America.
Paul Mirengoff is an anti-Trump DC beltway insider who makes liberal and uncritical use of National Review Trump-hater, and pseudo-intellectual, Ramesh Ponnuru’s hit-piece on Trump’s sister, Federal Circuit Court Judge Marianne Barry. Ponnuru has purposely misinterpreted Judge Barry’s opinion in Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey v. Farmer, as well as then-Circuit Judge Samuel Alito’s concurrence.
Both judges agreed on the result as they were constrained by US Supreme Court precedent. However, their only difference was in how to arrive at the the result: Alito favored a strict and un-detailed reliance on Stenberg v. Carhart. Barry’s unanimous opinion, in which Alito concurred, went much further, providing a detailed analysis of precisely why the New Jersey statue, which sought to outlaw partial-birth abortion, did not pass constitutional muster. (It was, unfortunately, a sloppy cut-and-paste job - as lazy legislators are often wont to do - of a Nebraska statute that was also struck down. Rather than going the extra mile by consulting constitutional experts in writing the New Jersey law, the elected Jersey boys in Trenton took a fatal shortcut. Too bad; with more effort it is most likely the courts would have upheld that law).
Pro-life legislators now have an explicit blueprint for crafting legislation that would actually pass constitutional muster, thanks to Donald Trump’s sister, Federal Circuit Court Judge Marianne Trump Barry.
Both Meringoff and Ponnuru are GOPe belway elitists who will twist any issue and defame any person to protect their DC power club, even to the extent of purposely using the issue of life to do so.
Many of those freepers have been on this board longer than you so don’t make silly assumptions.
The lady who was helping him to complete his French motif showed him two chairs actually from the era that would complete the look he was going for.
Trump complains about the price and asks one of his other designers if they could get something better and cheaper.
His designer said no because these are the real thing and it would be perfect to have these two historical artifacts to complete everything.
They could not convince Trump otherwise.
Why is this significant? Trump has absolutely no use for the Constitution. He will go for the cheaper deal which means he will not care to read the words.
How should a president act?
The president's main job is to do exactly what he says in his Oath.
He swears to protect and defend that piece of paper.
Trump has proven that he does not have the temperament nor the chops to siting the Oval Office.
He is actually no different than Obama.
At least Obama is intelligent enough to understand what he is ignoring.
Trump is too ignorant to even care about it.
So, no. I will not vote for Trump.
I will not in anyway contribute to his flippant and utter smashing of the Constitution.
“Trump has absolutely no use for the Constitution.”
You have to admit that you’ve failed to make a persuasive Constitutional argument from your vignette about some Louis XIV chairs, right?
Hold your nose and pull the lever. Isn’t that what we’ve been told? Every time we’ve gotten the same thing.
If you want the status quo, just admit it. You are afraid of the changes to our government that Trump might make.
I doubt very much that he will “destroy the Constitution”. That is a complaint that you should have been making for the past 20 years. You only make it when Trump shows up.
Why the sudden concern for the preservation of our Constitution - are you seriously implying that politicians of the past 25 years were strict preservationists of our great Constitution?
You roll this argument out because you’re afraid of changing the status quo. You truly believe Trump will change the status quo. I’m not sure I agree with you. It would be nice if he did, but I’ll settle for his changing of the status quo on immigration alone.
But you are not sure that he won't.
This is a hit piece? What's your definition of one?
“But you are not sure that he won’t.”
I believe that our Constitution is being destroyed by the “status quo” of big government and outsized spending.
I don’t think Trump will do that (as much) as the other guys.
I’m not sure we can get rid of our insolvent programs and socialist institutions overnight. Trump could be the start of that. Or not. But we know Cruz and Rubio will do nothing to stop the slow strangulation of our great Constitution. Just because (or maybe because) they are sitting members of the US Senate makes me question their actual commitment to our Constitution.
For example. Both Cruz and Rubio voted to give Obama broad authority to negotiate a deal with Iran without requiring a vote - as required by our Constitution - on a treaty.
They won’t admit that is what they did, but it is exactly what they did. They failed to honor our Constitution and prevent the largest threat to the free world today from obtaining nuclear weapons, and the ability to fund terrorism throughout the world.
They failed to understand, appreciate, and preserve our Constitution by doing what was Constitutionally required of them.
They blame Obama, which is easy to do, but it would have been easier if they put up token resistance and voted against that.
Yep. If/when Trump is not center stage we should get back to normal.
Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey v. Farmer, et. al., 220 F.3d 127 (3d Cir. 2000).
During the late 1990’s a number of different courts across the nation considered the constitutionality of state laws purporting to limit the constitutionally intact dilation and extraction procedures sometimes referred to by opponents as “partial birth abortion.” The Third Circuit considered such a law in New Jersey. After the Third Circuit opinion was drafted, but before it was issued, the Supreme Court issued its opinion in Stenberg v. Carhart (530 U.S. 914 (2000)) which struck down a late term abortion law very similar to the one at issue in New Jersey. As the Third Circuit had already determined that the law was unconstitutionally vague, they issued their opinion written by Judge Maryanne Trump Barry unchanged except to note, in the beginning of the opinion, the intervening opinion of the U.S. Supreme Court. The opinion is a lengthy discussion of the constitutional inadequacies of the New Jersey statute.
Alito wrote separately to state that he believed that the whole majority opinion was “never necessary and is now obsolete.” 220 F.3d at 152. He would have preferred that the court simply hold that the New Jersey statute was unconstitutional because it did not contain an exception for situations in which the health of the mother was endangered as required by the Supreme Court in Stenberg v. Carhart and because the statute would have applied to more than just intact dilation and extraction.
http://media.pfaw.org/stc/AlitoPreliminary.pdf
I have just spent the last 6 years doing research for a book on liberty. I have been delving into the thoughts of our Founders.
Do you know that the number one thing our Founders were worried about was handing the role of president to a man who needed to be flattered?
That one point worried them more than natural born status.
Trump has a very touchy vengeful ego. That right there is a recipe for disaster, because you do not give someone all the power when they are not rock solid.
What does Trump do when he gets offended or is shown to be wrong?
He files lawsuits.
But what if he doesn't have to appeal to suing those who offend him?
What if he has complete control of the IRS and the Justice Department? For starters?
You don't think a petty-minded, vengeful, touchy ego wouldn't use all the tools at his disposal?
so what if someone has been on longer, there has been trolls which have been banned which have been on longer than the 8 years I have been on here.
Alito wrote separately to state that he believed that the whole majority opinion was “never necessary and is now obsolete.” 220 F.3d at 152. He would have preferred that the court simply hold that the New Jersey statute was unconstitutional because it did not contain an exception for situations in which the health of the mother was endangered as required by the Supreme Court in Stenberg v. Carhart and because the statute would have applied to more than just intact dilation and extraction.
I honestly can’t wait to get back to how it was before al of this happened..
You actually think that Trump will save this country?
The choices are a slow decline with the status quo or making some tough decisions even if not perfect.
Walking through manure a foot deep for a year will kill you faster than swimming through the deep stuff for a day.
There is going to be a fight, lets get it over with.............
>> Why does Trump get a pass? <<
Doesn’t every cult leader get a pass from his members?
I’d be shocked — shocked I tell you — if it were otherwise.
So, you are saying that we have to go through another Civil War in order to rebuild this country?
Any a tough decision should not include the mistake of handing over the reigns of power over to a petty, vengeful, inflated ego who promises to make us great again.
Do you realize that the Romans faced this same point - they were so exhausted that they did just that and they lost their Republic only to suffer through centuries of tyrants.
I am not willing to hand over even my vote to endorse a man who if he didn't own his own business would have been dropped kicked by the CEO and the entire board.
“You actually think that Trump will save this country?”
You think Trump will “tear up the Constitution” based on a story of a couple of chairs.
I showed you a real example of Rubio and Cruz harming the Constitution.
Egads, man! What will it take for you to quit with the hyperbole already!
I think Trump will not preserve the status quo. That MAY save our country. Keeping the status quo of big spending and big government WILL destroy our country.
“What if he has complete control of the IRS and the Justice Department? For starters?”
Obama has shown the way, hasn’t he? But you are worried about Trump?
Rubio and Cruz were in a position to do something about this. They have not done much, have they?
“I have just spent the last 6 years doing research for a book on liberty. I have been delving into the thoughts of our Founders.”
Yet you reserve your criticism for Trump. You don’t acknowledge the harm Obama - and Rubio and Cruz in my aforementioned example have done to Liberty in this country - you expound upon the many ways in which Trump “might” harm Liberty, offering up little more than your chair example as proof.
Really?
>> We should consolidate all these names for trump supporters in one place <<
Of course. Excellent idea! It would then be even easier to lampoon them and their Dear Leader.
“Do you realize that the Romans faced this same point - they were so exhausted that they did just that and they lost their Republic only to suffer through centuries of tyrants.”
Do you realize we have an actual tyrant as President? Do you realize the Senate is filled with lesser tyrants who rubber stamp the presidents tyranny?
Yet you worry about what Trump “might” do?
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