Posted on 02/27/2016 6:00:23 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
Last night, in response to a question from Hugh Hewitt as to whether he would make a deal with liberals on religious liberty, Donald Trump decided to defend the judicial record of his sister, federal appeals court judge Maryanne Trump Barry, on abortion. In doing so, Trump displayed his characteristic ignorance and dishonesty.
Here was the exchange:
TRUMP: Now, Teds been very critical I have a sister whos a brilliant . . .
HEWITT: Mr. Cruz, will you make a deal about religious liberty?
TRUMP: . . . excuse me. Shes a brilliant judge. Hes been criticizing hes been criticizing my sister for signing a certain bill. You know who else signed that bill? Justice Samuel Alito, a very conservative member of the Supreme Court, with my sister, signed that bill.
So I think that maybe we should get a little bit of an apology from Ted. What do you think?
It took me a moment to figure out what Trump was talking about. Judges dont sign bills.
I soon realized that Trump must be saying that Justice (then Judge) Alito agreed with Judge Barrys infamous ultra pro-abortion opinion in a case before the Third Circuit. But that couldnt be right either, could it?
No it is not, as Ramesh Ponnuru shows. The case in question, Planned Parenthood of Central New Jersey v. Farmer, concerned a New Jersey law that banned partial birth abortion. The Supreme Court had already struck down a similar law before the Third Circuit (on which Barry and Alito sat) decided the matter. Thus, the New Jersey law had to be struck down, as well. Judges Barry and Alito agreed on this obvious and narrow point.
But Trumps sister wrote an opinion that went much further. As Ponnuru puts it, her expansive opinion laid out an argument that would logically justify a constitutional right to infanticide. He explains:
Under the Supreme Courts abortion jurisprudence, the right to life of a developing human being depended on whether it was inside or outside the womb and not, for example, on its stage of development. Inside the womb, the child was a fetus with no rights, and outside the child was an infant with rights. Pro-lifers wanted to mark an outer limit to this abortion regime by making it illegal to kill a human being who was partway out of the womb.
Judge Barry said that this was absurd and irrational. It makes no difference where the fetus is when it expires, as she put it, during an abortion.
But if thats right, then (as pro-lifers have pointed out before) it cant make a difference if the child is fully outside the womb either. And shes right, of course, that the location-based rule of Roe makes no sense. Thats where the irrationality lies. But she would resolve its contradictions by beginning to rationalize a constitutional right to commit and procure infanticide.
Needless to say, Samuel Alito did not sign that bill. To state things correctly, he did not join Barrys opinion. He called it unnecessary and obsolete given the Supreme Courts ruling, and stated merely that the higher courts decision on partial-birth abortion is controlling.
Perhaps Trump used the word bill instead of opinion in an attempt to skate past the fact that Alito did not agree with Barrys odious position on abortion. Regardless, Cruz is right about Trumps sister and Trump knows it.
The woman Trump holds out as a model jurist is obscenely pro-abortion.
The problem is that Trump can’t change libel laws, nor can he kill off his rivals.
You are drawing false hyperbolic parallels and bring no evidence of your charges, rather you cite some 25 page paper that you wrote, and claiming “history” as proof.
Quit being ridiculous. There is plenty to criticize about Trump. I suspect that because he is white that the “you’re just racist”defense of Obama’s tyrannical acts will not be possible for a president Trump, if that comes to pass.
Plutarch can guide analysis political figures but will not provide the prescience you claim
Then I am done.
You bring no facts. You can’t be done if you never started!
I can’t believe I wasted my Saturday morning on this. Don’t bother me again.
You have wasted a lot more than a Saturday if you are blaming me for your inability to bring relevant data to a debate.
Keep in mind that Trump is both a flatterer and one who needs to be flattered.
The worst of both worlds.
I’m a single issue voter - Immigration. that is the sole reason behind my support of Trump. He could be lying about what he will do. I’m supposing there is a decent chance he is not. I see other candidates starting to mimic him, because they see the political value in doing so.
I have no illusions of Trump being anything other than what he is. I’m amused that he has undermined the GOPe by simply having a strong position on immigration.
So I’m not bothered by criticism of Trump. I’m amused by the concerns raised with Trump that haven’t been raised against Obama or anyone else in the past 25 years - and should have been.
You don’t like the guy. I can certainly see why you may not - but if you change the language in your link from “flatterer” to “politician” you find Trump does not have an exclusive franchise on this stuff. He may be better at it than most, so be it.
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