Posted on 02/26/2016 1:13:51 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
RUSH: In terms of substance? I disagree with Chris Wallace. I think there was substance in this debate last night, and depending on what you want -- depending on what you were hoping to see and then what you think going forward -- there's really only one candidate in this debate last night which was chock-full of genuine policy-oriented substance, and that was Cruz. And I happen to know, folks...
I hear from people constantly, as you can imagine, and I hear from you even on the phones. But there have been people during the entirety of this campaign who think that Trump is a pretender, that he really doesn't know much about what all this is about, that he's getting by on the cult of celebrity and other things in our pop culture that people get excited by and attach to. There have been people who say, "We've gotta expose Trump. Trump's gotta be exposed. He doesn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't know conservatism.
"He doesn't know policy. He's just up there saying things that sound good in a populist sense." So what Cruz did last night was essentially expose that. If that's what you think needs and has needed to happen, Cruz did it last night. And probably the best way to illustrate how it happened is, one of the fears that a lot of anti-Trump people have is he's not really even a Republican. And they keep talking about all of his donations to people like Chuck Schumer and the Clintons.
Trump's response was, "Hey, look, you know, I live in New York City and they run the show there, and I'm in business, and there are certain things you have to do to get things done. You have to work with these people. But I'm a Republican." And he's made it clear, and he's tried to make that point over and over again. But Trump found last night Ted Cruz illustrating that. (summarized) "Look, if you think we have to beat Hillary Clinton, Trump's not the guy to do it. Trump cannot go out and hit Hillary Clinton on any of the things that she has done, any of her corruption, because he has contributed to her.
"He has donated. All that would have to happen," Cruz says, "is for Trump to hit Hillary in the debate and Hillary, and all she's gotta do is say, 'Donald, I don't know what your problem is. You donated to me to do this exact thing. So I don't know what your problem is now.'" And Cruz said, "We can't nominate somebody who donated to her." It's akin to the people that said we shouldn't nominate Romney. "If we nominate Romney, there's no way we can get Obama on Obamacare because Romney invented it in Massachusetts.
"Romney gave us Romneycare, and the guy that wrote Romneycare then turned around and wrote Obamacare," and it took Obamacare off the table as far as Romney's concerned. He couldn't hit it because there's a retort, "What do you mean you don't like Obamacare? You wrote its father. You implemented and signed into law its father, Romneycare. What are you?" And Cruz's point was that same set of circumstances with Hillary are going to occur.
Because it can be demonstrated that Trump's donations to the Clintons over the years -- including to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation -- have facilitated political move that Hillary Clinton has made. So the people who have wanted Trump exposed, that was pretty substantively done by Cruz. On the Rubio side, what Rubio did was literally just laugh at Trump all night, literally made fun of him, mock him. Not act frightened or afraid of him, and not be worried about ticking off his supporters, either.
A first for both.
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What do you mean “does it matter”? Judging by my statement above, it doesn't matter. It's just what happened.
Did he deny giving money to DemoncRats and I missed it?
My concern is beating the DemoncRats in November. What I think about any Republican Candidate right now makes no difference.
By the time the Primary hits CA, the decision will already have been made. Whoever gets the Nod gets my Vote.
And you brag about it on a public forum...
Amazing.
Yes.. I am AMAZING.
Thank you very much!
So Hillary is supposed to be our mortal enemy politically and it matters not what Trump donated to her and her foundation. It isn’t about denials. It is about what was done in our face.
And yes, I also live in California and I don’t think it has ever mattered who I voted for in a primary for President. It is always over before we have our say.
PICTURE A CLINTON/TRUMP DEBATE MOMENT
HRC says to Trump: “then why did you contribute to the Clinton Foundation?”
Trump replies: “Because you were for sale”.
You have learned nothing from the Clinton crime syndicate,for every one attack Trump will make the Clinton machine will counter with 10,plus have the echo chamber of the media 24/7
I can’t see HRCs’ handlers allowing her to walk into that trap. No way. Now a Mike Murphy, different story. As a tactical matter, you can’t allow a situation where your snarky, “implicative†question gets answered by black-and-white.
And that ain/t all....wait til Donald tweets out details of the Clinton Foundation/s (cough) charitable activities. Heheheheh.
The relationship is that I hear Levin putting all of his bets on Cruz as the only true conservative and now Limbaugh following suit, while at the same time Levin, who holds himself out as a great constitutional originalist, attacks quite irrationally anyone who even brings up the issue of eligibility and calls someone who makes an observation about Cruz and eligibility such as Lawrence Tribe a left wing nut job. In fact Tribe’s comments were quite sensible. In the end I think it quite foolish to place your bets on Cruz or Rubio without facing the eligibility issue. It is already raised and will, no doubt, be raised further. the simple fact is that if you face the issue you have to look at the other candidates including Trump.
Except he admitted to it in one of the earliest debates and it hasn't slowed him down. "Because you were for sale" is a perfect comeback. If she knows what's good for her Hillary won't even bring it up.
See Trump: Metaphor For American Conservatism.
That past is only prologue!
I'm Voting for the Republican Nominee come November whoever they may be, are you?
I think the Cruz Campaign has had too many missteps too late in the game and it has hurt them. Can that change, sure it can, this is Politics after all but I really don't see it happening.
Remember, the GOPe hats Cruz just as much as they hate Trump and they are grooming Rubio as their Savior. If they Broker the Convention, they are finished.
You and everyone else here can go round and round about this. Since Trump said long ago that he has contributed to BOTH Parties, acting like this is something new won't cut it. Remember, that was the point of my original Post to you.
In case you haven't noticed, his Supporters have bigger Fish to fry and Trump is the only one saying what they have been thinking for a long, long time. If that makes him a Populist so be it. Nothing they and we have been force fed by the Republican Party has worked out and People know it.
The Republicans always talk about inclusion, and Trump is bringing People to our side of the Aisle that the GOPe could only wish for in their Dreams. If you think Ronald Reagan could get Elected POTUS in this day and age, you are only fooling yourself.
Let me let you in on a little Secret. My Ex B-I-L was a Commercial Property Developer in Los Angeles and Las Vegas.
You would consider him a Conservative, but he courted the People in Power, mostly Democrats to get things done.
I shook hands with a few Folks that would probably repulse the typical FR Poster at some events he held when his Buildings were topped out. He told me many stories about what it takes to succeed in his Business, but his Vegas Deals were the things you would only read in a Novel.
Time for some people to climb out of the FR Bubble and smell the Coffee. No matter, we will never see another Election Season like this in my Lifetimes.
Just my $.02, your Mileage may vary. Carry on.
Nope, none of those issues matter in the slightest, because if we lose on immigration, we lose on every single one of those issues.
Have you not been paying attention to what I’ve been saying?
U mad?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
You use your brain, eh? Then you should return it to the manufacturer for a full refund.
When your brain is telling you to consistently conservatively selling the country to the liberals, there’s something wrong with it!
Only a fool would say the supreme court isn’t critically important.
Immigration is also very important - but - I don’t believe Trump will do what he says he’ll do. And that’s actually what matters. Not hollow words and emotional clap trap.
If we lose on immigration, the SC doesn’t matter either.
And for that matter, none of the others will do anything at all, definitely, so you can ‘not believe’ all you want, but in the end, Trump is still the only one with which we have a chance.
Cruz has flip-flopped more on this issue than Kerry did on the Iraq war, and with his embracing of Go8 Rubio, I don’t believe for a second that he’s telling the truth about border security any more.
That’s because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Immigration is also very important - but - I don’t believe Trump will do what he says he’ll do. And that’s actually what matters. Not hollow words and emotional clap trap.
Do what he says? Ted Cruz stood with Barack Obama and Goldman Sachs and against us on TPA/TPP. Why should we believe he won’t do that again? After his votes in the U. S. Senate, I have no confidence he won’t service his big donors again at our expense.
TPA was strongly supported by Reagan and has been provided to every President since then. The vote also makes it available to the next President. Reasonable people can disagree on this.
TPP hasn’t been voted on to my knowledge. It has been claimed it will pass but that is very unclear in the current climate.
Do you want to review Trump’s flip-flops over the last 15 years?
Hope your right,but this is only the primary,the left goes into War mode in the election campaign,you will be lucky if you hear Trumps name anymore let alone what he says
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