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Donald Trump's Honesty Problem
Commentary Magazine ^ | 2/22/2016 | Max Boot

Posted on 02/24/2016 2:01:38 PM PST by MeanWestTexan

Donald Trump, the undoubted Republican front-runner after winning the New Hampshire and South Carolina primaries, is — there is no way to sugarcoat this — a liar, an ignoramus, and a moral abomination. I have never previously described any presidential candidates in such harsh terms — not even close — but there is no other way to accurately describe him. There simply isn't. This past week, the week culminating in his big South Carolina win, provided yet more evidence, as if any were needed, of the validity of all these words to describe him.

Start with the lying. Trump has consistently claimed that he was the "only" Republican candidate who opposed the Iraq War from the start. Until recently, commentators could do no more than note there was no evidence of his opposition. Now we can go further because, thanks to the ground-breaking work of BuzzFeed reporter Andrew Kaczyinski, we know that Trump actually supported the invasion.

On September 11, 2002, Trump told Howard Stern "yeah I guess so" when asked if he supported an invasion of Iraq. Why his hesitation? Only because he thought it should have happened sooner. As he said: "I wish the first time it was done correctly," suggesting, as he had previously written, that George H.W. Bush should have toppled Saddam in 1991.

After the invasion started, on March 21, 2003, Trump called it a "tremendous success from a military standpoint." He did not come out in bull-blown opposition until April, 2004, calling it a "terrible mistake," by which time the Abu Ghraib excesses had been revealed and the U.S. was suffering battlefield reverses in Fallujah and elsewhere.

Asked now to explain his quotations from 2002-2003, Trump can only say: "I really don’t even know what I mean." That's a pretty weak way to explain away a blatant lie, and one that has been at the core of his claim to possess the kind of foreign policy judgment we need in a president.

It should be added that this is hardly only lie that Trump has brazenly peddled. Other doozies include his claim that "thousands" of Muslims in New Jersey cheered 9/11 and that he had no idea that a reporter whose disability he ridiculed was actually disabled — he claimed to have no memory of meeting him (which he had done many times). Ironically Trump’s greatest lie of all is his claim to have "the world’s greatest memory."

But wait, as they say on late-night TV, there is more. Trump's ignorance was revealed yet again this past week with his bizarre praise of General John J. Pershing whose supposed example he cited as a model in the war on terror. Here is what Trump said:

"General Pershing was a rough guy, He caught 50 terrorists who did tremendous damage…and he took the 50 terrorists and he took 50 men and dipped 50 bullets in pig’s blood. You heard about that? He took 50 bullets and dipped them in pig's blood [which is considered haram]. And he has his men load up their rifles and he lined up the 50 people and they shot 49 of those people. And the 50th person, he said, you go back to your people and you tell them what happened. And for 25 years there wasn't a problem. We've got to start getting tough and we’ve got to start being vigilant and we've got to start using our heads or we’re not gonna have a country, folks."

There’s only one problem with Trump's inspirational tale: There is no evidence it ever happened. Snopes.com describes this as a common urban legend. It is actually far removed from the way that Captain Pershing dealt with the Moros, the Muslims in the Philippines, in the early years of the 20th century. As I wrote in my book The Savage Wars of Peace: Small Wars and the Rise of American Power, "Captain Pershing preferred to win over the Moros with outstretched hand rather than mailed fist. So successful was his campaign that he was made a datto, or chieftain."

In other words, Pershing's approach was the very opposite of what Trump claimed. Although Pershing was not afraid to use force if necessary, he understood that the Moros could not simply be terrorized into acquiescence to American rule and that excessive brutality could backfire.

It is offensive that Trump is praising Pershing for war crimes he didn't commit and simply gobsmacking that Trump thinks that Pershing could have ended the Moro insurrection for 25 years simply by executing 49 prisoners. In fact, while Pershing did help to quell the Moro uprising using a balanced counterinsurgency approach, it never truly ended; the Muslim insurrection in the Philippines continues to this day, a fact of which Trump is undoubtedly unaware.

The larger point is that Trump is wrong to claim that we can defeat ISIS and al-Qaeda by emulating their tactics. The more likely outcome is to create more enemies than we eliminate. Even the Nazis couldn’t pacify the Balkans in World War II by using scorched-earth tactics.

It is hard to think of another major party presidential candidate in our history as ignorant, mendacious, and offensive as Trump. And yet a significant share of the GOP electorate, amounting to roughly a third of early state voters, has been supporting him in no small part because they think he is telling it "like it is." No, he isn't. What he is saying bears no relation to basic truth or common decency.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016issues; cruz; dondi2106; howarddeanredux; lemonadestand; trump; trumplies; youcruzyoulose
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To: MeanWestTexan

Donald Trump seems to be more honest than most politicians. I’ve seen/met him in person and you can’t but feel very enthusiastic about the guy. And after SC and Nevada, go TRUMPMENTUM!!


61 posted on 02/24/2016 2:38:27 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: catfish1957
.. well...at least she is covering half of them this time ..

You're a bit deprived in that department, hon?

Stay strong.

62 posted on 02/24/2016 2:38:49 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

John, I know you are better than that.


63 posted on 02/24/2016 2:39:32 PM PST by DB
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To: alstewartfan

64 posted on 02/24/2016 2:40:31 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (Michelle Obama, The Early Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYGxBlFOSU)
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To: MeanWestTexan

That’s what we all said after 9/11.

Don’t you remember?


65 posted on 02/24/2016 2:41:59 PM PST by donna (Radicalized Christians become missionaries; then, they tell everyone that Jesus loves them!)
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To: WVKayaker

Where is Sarah, Trump’s most valued supporter?????


66 posted on 02/24/2016 2:43:18 PM PST by RightLady (It's gotta be Cruz)
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To: Byron_the_Aussie

If I wasn’t on my mobile I’d post a picture of the ‘taj Mahal’
Or many of his other foreclosed properties.


67 posted on 02/24/2016 2:44:26 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: Durbin

He says stuff whichever way the wind blows.

68 posted on 02/24/2016 2:45:30 PM PST by Spunky (Trump said "If Ivanka wasn't my daughter I would probably be dating her")
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To: No Dems 2016

You do realize you sound exactly like a Bill Clinton admirerer right?


69 posted on 02/24/2016 2:46:39 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: deport

Thanks for the link in #25. Max Loot.


70 posted on 02/24/2016 2:47:51 PM PST by PGalt
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To: MeanWestTexan

What and Cruz has not pulled any dirty tricks even though he has admitted it? Article is a perfect example of pot calling the kettle black. Absolute 100% hypocrite.


71 posted on 02/24/2016 2:48:17 PM PST by Enlightened1
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To: DB

After the posts I read yesterday, maybe not : )


72 posted on 02/24/2016 2:51:31 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) since Nov 2014 (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: catnipman

OUTSTANDING, catnipman. Post #39 BUMP! WOW!


73 posted on 02/24/2016 2:53:34 PM PST by PGalt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Nah he’ll never be poor, his dad gave him too much money for that, although sometimes it does seem like Trump’s trying hard to be poor, what with all of his failed products and businesses. We are talking about the guy who’d be much richer if he had just left his initial money alone in an unmanaged stock account.


74 posted on 02/24/2016 2:56:21 PM PST by Reaper19
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Well said.


75 posted on 02/24/2016 2:57:17 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: No Dems 2016

“Donald Trump seems to be more honest than most politicians.”

Good con men are always very convincing.

If they looked like Charlie Manson, you’d know.

But they don’t.


76 posted on 02/24/2016 2:58:44 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Beware Obama's Reichstag Fire.)
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To: Enlightened1
What ‘dirty truck's has Cruz ‘pulled’?

The Mailers? Really? Did any of them say ‘vote for Ted Cruz or else’?

The ‘Carson’ thing? One, Ted didn't do it. Two it wasn't a lie when disseminated to his team.

The Rubio / Obama thing? Not a lie just sloppy work - real picks just like it exist.

The Rubio bible story? Not Cruz, a recently unemployed staffer.

I'm not saying he's as pure as the driven snow. I am saying that you have bought the mean, nasty , liar meme wholesale and swallowed the hype hook, line, and sinker.

77 posted on 02/24/2016 3:00:56 PM PST by Outlaw76 (Conservative, Showman, Rino. Make your choice wisely.)
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To: jospehm20

Cruz has always supported building a border wall.
trump tho has donated to democrats who advanced amnesty.


78 posted on 02/24/2016 3:03:34 PM PST by RginTN (Donald J Trump- why would the people of Ky want a rookie senator when they have Sen Mitch Mcconnell)
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To: MeanWestTexan

This stuff is not going to take Trump out. I’m sure it makes the establishment shill feel a little better writing it but it will have zero effect on the outcome. The tribe has pretty much spoken.


79 posted on 02/24/2016 3:20:59 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: arl295

Oh the bitterness. Its everywhere. Sore Cruzerman is at epidemic proportions today on every thread.


80 posted on 02/24/2016 3:22:18 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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