If the FBI, Dept. of Justice (and the White House, aka the Red House), wanted to get serious with Apple over their refusal to help uncode an Islamic mass murderer’s cell phone, then let them try this.
Under the 1916/1917 US Code section on Treason and Sedition (I don’t have it in front of me), there is a section regarding “aiding and abetting an enemy” in a time of war or peace.
I would love to see Apple’s head traitor, Tim Scott, perp-walked into a local city jail (he’d get a lot of boyfriends real fast).
Also, since Al Qaeda and ISIS have both declared war against the US, even if we don’t officially (by vote of Congress), declare war against the, a “state of war” between them and us exists in reality (and this was recognized to some degree in Vietnam War court cases up to both District and I believe, Circuit Court levels.
The US Government could “seize” the whole Apple operation for impeding the “war effort”. It was done during WW2 when labor strikes got out of hand or the management of a company failed to produce according to the terms of their war contracts with the govt.
While the Supreme Court shot down Truman’s attempt to seize the steel industries during the Korean War, Korea was not a “declared war”, only a UN ‘police action’.
Today, “declared wars” are not going to happen so some courts will recognize a “de facto state of war to exist” where an enemy has declared it and we are fighting a counter-war (not a damned police/FBI) action against them.
It is time that our businesses pick a side, ours or the enemies (if only by omission or commission), and pay the penalty for hurting our ability to defend ourselves and protect our troops and citizens from open warfare or terrorism.
In Apple’s case and their sleazy defense of “defending the rights to privacy of their customers”, screw Apple. This has nothing to do with the “rights of the customers” and Apple knows it, or is Tim Scott really that stupid? I doubt it. He’s a doublecrossing traitor and should pay the price for his “aiding and abetting our enemies”.
I prefer a firing squad for treason and “aiding and abetting”, but then again, I’m an old fashioned America patriot.
Nice fascist response. But apple hasn’t aided and abetted anyone. All they did was build a nice secure product. The government has a search warrant and may search to their hearts content. But they may not force a company to invent software and hardware to help them execute their warrant.
If they have a warrant to search a bank vault, they can get out tools, blowtorches and drills and get to work. But they may not force the safe builder to come down and defeat the safe for them. Its very basic.
As for the breathless argument that we are in a war, and the FBI is working like Jack Bauer and only wants to save the country? Again, no dice.
This same FBI ignores detailed information about the Boston bombers. They discipline a woman who pointed out the 9/11 hijackers. They LET the San Bernardino terrorist into the country even though she had detailed jihadi crap on her damned facebook page!
They let major Hassan email to senior Al Qeida leadership, and PROMOTED him.
They deem Paul voters, constitution lovers, vets and anyone with a Gadsden flag as a terrorist. They support the Black lives matter, Saint Michael Brown, and every thug in America. They didn’t arrest anyone over IRS conducting political investigations of TEA. They did nothing against planned parenthood.
They prosecuted NOBODY for fast and furious and were COMPLICIT in it. Hillary wont be prosecuted. They are fully and hopelessly corrupt and side with the moslems at every turn.
They PURGED their own training courses of anything suggesting moslems are a terror threat.
And now im supposed to get all wrapped around the axle about giving THEM what THEY say they need, and its all sincerely to keep me safe? I want whatever dope you’re smoking.
Did I just stumble into Democrat Underground? Sure seems like it. That was the stupidest screed I have had the misfortune to ever read on FreeRepublic. "Tim Scott"? Who in hell is he? You are so ignorant of what you speak you don't even know the names of the main players.
Apple HAS been assisting the FBI and the DOJ on this case since early January, you idiot.
If you had even an inkling of what's been going on, the FBI and the DOJ SCREWED the POOCH by not bringing Apple in earlier.
The FBI had the San Bernardino County Department of Health IT department CHANGE THE APPLE ID on the iPhone less than 24 hours after they seized it, accidentally locking out one of the means Apple could have used to get the data out!
Today, "declared wars" are not going to happen so some courts will recognize a "de facto state of war to exist" where an enemy has declared it and we are fighting a counter-war (not a damned police/FBI) action against them.
COURTS do not get to declare war, no matter how much you may want them to! Your name is correct, you are insane if you think any court could declare "a defect state of war to exist" so you can arrest Americans you don't like.
SHEESH! Why not just let Obama declare himself President for life (Hell, why not go all the way and go for a coronation?) and do what ever else he wants, using his pet judges order anything else that is extra-Constitutional like this Court order forcing American's to produce what ever his Royal Highness's Government wants to further their needs.
Amendment XIII
Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
Section 2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.[1]
So this government headed by an angry, gay, muzzlim is just trying to protect us? Oh, and they get help from the big grey building in Utah, right? No way. A crack staff including Mitnick could crack it and write the software themselves but they are forcing the corporation to do it? Why? Because they turn a profit and they want to know all metadata about everything phone user. Next, hello T-Mobile, AT&T, Verizon...Gubmnt needs your help...oh, and you don’t have a choice. No worries...you’re fine if you haven’t committed a crime, right?
You might want to step back and remember who is considered a potential terrorist in the eyes of DHS.
Of course a “Maverick DHS Office” was blamed for that report, but it stands on its own in the years since 2009.
“The US Government could “seize†the whole Apple operation for impeding the “war effortâ€.”
What war effort? We don’t have a declared war. This is the same old warmed over bullshit I’ve seen since I signed on to FR. There’s always someone who thinks anyone who isn’t a total Cuck for the government is a traitor and guilty of a thousand crimes. Left over Neo-con crap from years ago.
“I’m an old fashioned America patriot.”
Actually I think you’re an old fashioned fool.
The FedGov ain’t being run by Thomas Jefferson these days.
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