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Posted on 02/20/2016 6:44:45 AM PST by raptor22
Politics makes strange bedfellows, as the saying goes, but maybe it’s not so strange that the anti-war loony left group Code Pink praised Donald Trump’s embrace of their “Bush Lied, People Died†mantra in the South Carolina debate. Trump’s comments that President George W. Bush deliberately sent Americans to their deaths based on a lie and knew 9/11 was coming and did nothing fits Code Pink’s alternate universe. Trump’s character assassination of the last Republican President should disqualify him from being the next one.
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Dismissing Trump as a carnival barker amazes me. He is a successful real estate developer and media guru. He’s beaten the corrupt politicians at their own game so far. I don’t understand why people aren’t thanking him for taking all the opprobrium from the media and GOPe on our behalf...
If he never entered the race, it would be politics as usual, and a guarantee we’d all lose in the end.
You appreciate Trump being compared to Napolean Bonaparte?
Interesting.
Is there any candidate other than Trump you would defend getting any level of agreement from Code Pick?
I grew up in a religious cult. It is perfectly understandable. People want a Messiah. People want to think that one man can change the world and Make America Great Again. It's all slogans and puffery. Underneath the Messiah's thin orange veneer is a wolf in sheep's clothing. A false prophet promising everything but delivering nothing.
Once someone puts their Faith in the arm of flesh, it takes more than facts and logic to sway them from their faith.
That line worked a lot better in 2003 when it was still possible to hope that W's Iraq project might work out as his naive advisers claimed it would, turning most Baathists and Islamists into fun and freedom loving democratic middle eastern-americans.
But now with trillions wasted and nothing to show for it Trump's pragmatic opposition to the failed crusade makes him look like a prophet, and doesn't hurt him a bit.
But I don't expect American Thinker to understand that. They're one of the last pro-invasion dead ender enclaves, as delusional in their own way as Baghdad Bob.
Cruz Bots or another lie?
Bernie Sanders. If Bernie were not running for President, Trump would probably consider him as a VP. Didn't he consider Oprah? Has everyone here forgotten that?
Gaffer, this isn’t a straw being pulled.
This is full agreement by both parties (Donald Trump and Code Pink) on a fundamental viewpoint that goes to the core of what Bush did with respect to the conflict in the Middle East.
As I have said many times before, I don’t have a moral issue with those who disagree with me on nearly every account with the Iraq war relating to the entry, execution, money spent, etc. I think those points are justifiably open to debate.
What I do NOT believe is open to debate is the falsehood of the vile charge that Bush outright lied on the fundamental, major points on which the conflict was entered in order solely to advance his personal (or that of his associates) monetary gain.
That is the position of Code Pink. And Donald Trump agrees with it. And that is what people take exception to.
I never said he was an unsuccessful carnival barker.
His modus operandi is identical.
Well, I was for Cruz and now am for Trump, the reasons for which I described a few weeks ago that primarily had to do with the abject rancor I’ve seen from Cruz supporters here.
But I’ve said I’ll still vote for Cruz if he wins the nomination, and I’ll do it gladly and proudly. I don’t/won’t intentionally trash Cruz like I see here with Trump. I won’t even change my vote for him in the case he gets the nomination because he’s aligned himself with an insane boozer (my opinion) like Glenn Beck.
How’s that?
So Code Pink hates Cruz and crashes his rallies, but they love Trump? Go figure.
They can swell a faux Conservative a mile away. They believe that he is really on their side. Only thing is, Trump is on Trump’s side. And that is his real danger to the republic!
im still waiting to read Cruz’s statement about the Iraq war.
Oddly enough he seems to have no opinion apparently.
Another Kool-Aid deep drinker!
See #31. Rail all you want. It won’t change votes. If anything, it will turn off people from your own choice.
You call the charge (That Trump both agrees with, and echoes) “Bush Lied People Died” a “pragmatic opposition”?
There are plenty of reasons to oppose the Iraq war, many of them not only valid but logical as well, but basing the opposition to the war on the spittle-lipped, vile, unhinged dogma of Code Pink and MoveOn.org are not included in those reasons.
And that is precisely what people like me take issue with Donald Trump (and Code Pink) on.
“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.” President Clinton , Feb. 4, 1998.
“If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction program.” President Clinton , Feb. 17, 1998.
“Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face .” Madeline Albright , Feb 18, 1998.
” He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983 .” Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
“[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.” Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.” Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
“Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies.” Madeline Albright , Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
“There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies.” Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
“We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.” Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
“We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.” Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.
“Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.” Al Gore , Sept. 23, 2002.
“We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeing and developing weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
“The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons...” Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
“I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force “ if necessary “ to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
“There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have always s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction.” Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
“He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do.” Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
“In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons.” Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. “[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ... Sen. John F. Kerry (D, M
I’m still waiting for Ted to explain Glenn Beck without standing off three feet from him.
And about a third is all that Trump is going to pull. Just like nutjob Perot. I am convinced that if he doesn’t win the nomination he is going to run as an independent for sure. And like Perot giving us Bill Clinton he will give us Hillary, or crazy Bernie! A vote for Trump is a vote for the Dems!
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