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The ‘Steak and Lobster’ Food-Stamp Myth Refuses to Die
New York Magazine ^ | February 19, 2016 | Claire Landsbaum

Posted on 02/19/2016 10:38:02 AM PST by nickcarraway

The concept of the food-stamp queen was first proffered by Ronald Reagan during a 1976 campaign speech. "In Chicago, they found a woman who holds the record," he told the assembled crowd. "She used 80 names, 30 addresses, 15 telephone numbers to collect food stamps, Social Security, veterans' benefits for four nonexistent deceased veteran husbands, as well as welfare. Her tax-free cash income alone has been running $150,000 a year." Reagan's story turned out to be a gross exaggeration of a minor case of welfare fraud, but since their patron saint conjured her up, conservatives have been unable to rid themselves of the image of the food-stamp queen. And despite her nonexistence, they've tried over and over again to stamp her out.

Their latest attempt takes the form of a bill introduced by New York senator Patty Ritchie designed to keep people from using New York's Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program to buy things like expensive steaks, lobster, decorated cakes, or energy drinks. "The goal of this legislation is to improve dietary quality and reduce obesity," as well as to "restrict the abuse of the program," reads the bill's memo.

Even if it passes the Democratic-controlled senate, the bill is unlikely to accomplish either goal. According to a 2007 report by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, "no evidence exists which indicates that food stamp benefits directly contribute to poor food choices and negative dietary outcomes, such as obesity." The majority of food-stamp recipients still buy a portion of their food with their own money, with which they can make as many unrestricted choices as they want.

The Republican fear of "abuse" of food stamps to purchase "luxury items" is founded on a decades-old and highly unrealistic stigma. Last April, when Missouri politicians introduced a similar bill, Representative Rick Brattin told the Washington Post, "I have seen people purchasing filet mignons and crab legs with their EBT [Electronic Benefit Transfer] cards. When I can't afford it on my pay, I don't want people on the taxpayer's dime to." Similar outrage flared up in Kansas when a bill was introduced to limit "a long list of items, including alcohol, cigarettes, concert tickets, theme park tickets, or cruises," and in Wisconsin, where another aimed to strike "crab, lobster, shrimp, and any other shell fish" from the list of available foods. Yet in studies of the diets of people on food stamps, they're shown to eat less seafood than the rest of us, and about the same amount of beef. (How they would buy cruise tickets with their benefits is unclear.)

"It's seeking to legislate urban myths in our society," Milwaukee representative Evan Goyke told WSAU when Wisconsin's bill was in the spotlight. "Forty-one percent of the people who receive food stamps are under the age of 18, and the next largest chunk are the elderly. And they're not eating lobster; they're struggling to get by."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: welfare
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To: Pan_Yan
I can’t count the number of times I’ve watched someone use their money for beer and cigarettes and my money for food. The system is fraudulent by nature.

As an aside... this is also why Donald Trump can't fund "the wonderful things Planned Parenthood does" without also supporting abortion.

21 posted on 02/19/2016 10:51:39 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: central_va
"Everyone I see at the Food Lion that uses EBT usually drives a new car."

And has the latest smart phone

22 posted on 02/19/2016 10:51:49 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Wilderness Conservative

The food stamps are now all done via an EBT debit card. Data gets transmitted. It would be a very simple matter to just compile the data from all purchases made on EBT cards and analyze it.

If the Dept. of Agriculture has not done this, it’s because they don’t WANT to do it.


23 posted on 02/19/2016 10:52:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: circlecity

And those embossed finger nail thingys.


24 posted on 02/19/2016 10:52:26 AM PST by central_va
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To: nickcarraway

Food stamps should be restricted to rice, beans, flour, etc.


25 posted on 02/19/2016 10:52:49 AM PST by Beagle8U (Trumpanzees Lives Matter!)
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To: nickcarraway
Yet in studies of the diets of people on food stamps, they're shown to eat less seafood than the rest of us, and about the same amount of beef. (How they would buy cruise tickets with their benefits is unclear.)

It's not about what they EAT but about what they BUY.

I know you are a liberal Claire so I will use small words.

They buy expensive and easily resalable items using their EBT card. They then sell those items for cash. They then use the cash for whatever they please. For example, cruise tickets.

26 posted on 02/19/2016 10:53:26 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: nickcarraway

When I worked in a grocery store, we loaded the meat case with premium steaks on the first week of the month.

It was cheap grind and hamburger helper in the case on the last week of the month.

Every month for years....


27 posted on 02/19/2016 10:54:04 AM PST by nixonsnose (you never know how much pee splatters until you are standing at the urinal in flip flops.)
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To: nickcarraway

This article tries to dispel what it labels as myths using statistical averages.


28 posted on 02/19/2016 10:54:23 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: nickcarraway

” (How they would buy cruise tickets with their benefits is unclear.) “


This author must have been in a coma for the past 10 years.

Even I ,an old lady who has never been on food stamps,knows how this could be done.

Libs lie.

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29 posted on 02/19/2016 10:54:57 AM PST by Mears
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To: central_va

The author needs to come shop with me at wal-mart supercenter. I guess EBT cards aren’t used at Whole Foods, Trader Joes, or wherever Claire shops and she’d be shocked at what EBT cards are used for where us commoners shop.


30 posted on 02/19/2016 10:55:40 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: nickcarraway

It wasn’t a minor case of welfare fraud either, the woman was an absolute nightmare, the welfare fraud was the least of it.

http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2013/12/20/255819681/the-truth-behind-the-lies-of-the-original-welfare-queen


31 posted on 02/19/2016 10:55:51 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Army Air Corps

I was approached by a black woman in Wal-Mart one day and she wanted to pay for my groceries with her food stamp card, so i would give her the $$ in cash..................


32 posted on 02/19/2016 10:56:13 AM PST by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: All

In America, we pay stupid people to breed, feed and vote Democrat....


33 posted on 02/19/2016 10:57:22 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: nickcarraway

The Uniparty doesn’t want people to remember that money is fungible.

So they buy steaks with other money that is now available for discretionary purchases because they don’t have to spend it on necessities covered by welfare.


34 posted on 02/19/2016 10:58:37 AM PST by Iron Munro (WE MAY BE PARANOID BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY AREN'T REALLY AFTER US)
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To: nickcarraway

Notice that the article does not say it is impossible to buy filet mignon and lobster with food stamps the way it is impossible to buy cigarettes with food stamps.


35 posted on 02/19/2016 10:58:45 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: nickcarraway
I was on food stamps at one time and only got $30 a month. But I'm white.

Ed

36 posted on 02/19/2016 10:59:08 AM PST by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“no evidence exists which indicates that food stamp benefits directly contribute to poor food choices and negative dietary outcomes, such as obesit

Conversely...

“no evidence exists which indicates that food stamp benefits directly contribute to good food choices and positive dietary outcomes.”

Normally a liberal would want to manipulate the social norms
to bring about that “positive” benefit.
Why the silence?


37 posted on 02/19/2016 10:59:45 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: nickcarraway

Not a myth, just willfully blind

What’s NOT a myth is the violations of taxpayers 5th and 13th Rights


38 posted on 02/19/2016 11:00:09 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: central_va
"And those embossed finger nail thingys"

And a bunch of tats

39 posted on 02/19/2016 11:01:39 AM PST by circlecity
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To: nickcarraway

40 posted on 02/19/2016 11:01:54 AM PST by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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