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POPE SHOULD READ BIBLE, CATECHISM
boblonsberry.com ^ | 02/19/2016 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 02/19/2016 6:33:46 AM PST by shortstop

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What are the chances that the worst President in my lifetime would be serving at the same time as the worst Pope in my lifetime? As a practicing Catholic, I despise this Pope.
1 posted on 02/19/2016 6:33:46 AM PST by shortstop
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To: shortstop

The Pope should take a vow of silence. Starting immediately.

What he says half the time makes virtually no sense and it certainly isn’t Catholic teaching.


2 posted on 02/19/2016 6:36:46 AM PST by livius
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To: shortstop

Dittos.


3 posted on 02/19/2016 6:37:07 AM PST by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: livius

I’m Catholic, and he had no reason to enter into a political discourse. If he wants to get involved in politics, I think a start would be by excommunicating Pelosi, Biden, and a host of other politicians who promote abortion, which is far more evil than kicking out illegal immigrants.

The Catechism requires you to follow the law, unless it goes against morals, such as abortion, homo marriage, etc.
Therefore, illegal immigration is against their teachings.


4 posted on 02/19/2016 6:41:46 AM PST by nobamanomore
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To: livius
"The Pope should take a vow of silence. Starting immediately."

Good luck with that. This is the most attention seeking Pope ever. Not much humility in this one.

5 posted on 02/19/2016 6:42:48 AM PST by circlecity
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To: shortstop

SNIP

Phil Pullella, Reuters: Today, you spoke very eloquently about the problems of immigration. On the other side of the border, there is a very tough electoral battle. One of the candidates for the White House, Republican Donald Trump, in an interview recently said that you are a political man and he even said that you are a pawn, an instrument of the Mexican government for migration politics. Trump said that if he’s elected, he wants to build 2,500 kilometers of wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, separating families, etcetera. I would like to ask you, what do you think of these accusations against you and if a North American Catholic can vote for a person like this?

Pope Francis: Thank God he said I was a politician because Aristotle defined the human person as ‘animal politicus.’ At least I am a human person. As to whether I am a pawn, well, maybe, I don’t know. I’ll leave that up to your judgment and that of the people. And then, a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the Gospel. As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that. I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt.

SNIP

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/full-text-of-pope-francis-in-flight-interview-from-mexico-to-rome-85821/


6 posted on 02/19/2016 6:43:47 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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I think I finally figured out what the pope’s problem is. He is ignorant and not terribly bright. Benedict was one of the most intellectual and brilliant minds in recent Church history. His mastery of the catechism, human nature, history and his clear understanding of evil and his ability to verbalize it were quite clear. This pope does not have a clear understanding of Catholic doctrine. He is a terrible communicator. He is a typical marxist/leninist South American. He has no clue how the world works. He insults my professional (and financial success). I have yet to hear him call out evil for what it is i.e., islam, communism, socialism, fascism. He confuses what is Caesar’s with what is God’s.

His talking points—homosexuality—it’s ok. Who am I to judge? Contraception—ok as long as it is to prevent Zika virus and not pregnancy. Capitalism—evil because there are poor people in the world. Sovereignty of nations—bad because it is not Christian to allow illegal alien invaders to come into my country and rape and murder and steal from Americans while getting free services that I pay for through my earnings being confiscated through taxation.


7 posted on 02/19/2016 6:44:51 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: shortstop

This is the leader with the largest wall around the country in the entire world, as well as the most restrictive immigration policy administered by his Swiss Guards, and he’s lecturing us?


8 posted on 02/19/2016 6:45:59 AM PST by shortstop (It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful)
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This is a serious question. Isn’t Catholicism completely based on the Pope basically being God’s direct ambassador on earth. And consequently everything the Pope says becomes gospel, so to speak, and must be followed as if God said it? It seems strange that Catholics pick and choose what words they want to follow that come out of the Pope’s mouth.


9 posted on 02/19/2016 6:46:15 AM PST by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: livius

How can Francis the Talking Mule take a vow of silence?


10 posted on 02/19/2016 6:46:55 AM PST by Kozy
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To: shortstop

The pope is a political activist and is not worthy to be pope.


11 posted on 02/19/2016 6:47:31 AM PST by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

And who is the pope to judge what is in Trump’s heart? If Trump believes in Jesus Christ as the son of God and accepts Christ as his saviour, according to my understanding of Christianity, that would make Trump a Christian. For this pope to chastise Trump while never calling out the evil that is perpetrated every day on Christians around the world by ISIS and islam is repulsive and offensive and heretical.

Pope Francis will remain Francis. God willing there will never be a Francis II. He truly is the false prophet we were warned about. No, it is not a coincidence that he and Obama are contemporaries.

God help us all. Only He can.


12 posted on 02/19/2016 6:51:15 AM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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POPE SHOULD READ BIBLE, CATECHISM

After the questionable way this "Pope" came to power and his actions since then, I'm beginning to wonder if he is the "anti-Pope".

13 posted on 02/19/2016 6:53:05 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (My Forefathers Would Be Shooting By Now!)
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14 posted on 02/19/2016 6:53:48 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: shortstop
My thoughts exactly, the worst and the worst. This pope IIRC said he wished he could join the illegals crossing the borders. So he approves of breaking man's laws? And he dares to call everybody who doesn't want open borders a non Christian.
15 posted on 02/19/2016 6:53:48 AM PST by FreedomGuru (Vote out every republican that voted for the latest spending bill...)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
He is ignorant and not terribly bright.

I think you are giving him too much of a pass. I see him as evil person. Perhaps his Christianity should also be questioned since he himself thinks he can question someone's faith in Christ and God.

16 posted on 02/19/2016 6:54:41 AM PST by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: livius
The Pope should take a vow of silence. Starting immediately.

He's too much of an attention whore to do that.

17 posted on 02/19/2016 6:57:44 AM PST by pgkdan (The Silent Majority Stands With TRUMP!)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Did you read that exchange in full?


18 posted on 02/19/2016 7:01:43 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: bramps

Your understanding of Catholicism is incorrect. It is not based on what the Pope says. The Pope is a shepherd and the people of the church his flock, but Catholics are not required to follow whatever the shepherd says. You are in error about that.
Catholicism is a a sacramental religion that follows Jesus Christ. The gospels Catholics follow are written in the New Testament. This pope and any pope are only infallible when speaking on matters of dogma which are clearly defined in the Catholic Catechism of the church. Catholics are not required to now believe that Trump is an anti christ and forbidden from voting for him. Before you disparage Catholics, learn about them first.


19 posted on 02/19/2016 7:03:56 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: nobamanomore
I think a start would be by excommunicating Pelosi, Biden, and a host of other politicians who promote abortion, which is far more evil than kicking out illegal immigrants.

He is heading in the opposite direction. Yesterday he gave Catholic elected officials his blessing to vote yea on "gay marriage". Can permission to vote pro-abortion be far behind?


20 posted on 02/19/2016 7:04:13 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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