Posted on 02/17/2016 1:55:21 AM PST by elhombrelibre
Donald Trump crossed the line at the last Republican debate — twice: when he blamed President George W. Bush for 9/11, and when he bought into the “Bush lied†lie about the Iraq War.
“The World Trade Center came down during the reign of George Bush,†Trump said, because the president “didn’t listen to the advice of his CIA.â€
Sorry: The CIA missed it coming, as did the rest of the US intelligence community. The feds failed to connect the dots and ferret out the terrorists before they struck.
But al Qaeda actually grew — and planned the attack — on President Bill Clinton’s watch. And Clinton-era restrictions on, for example, what the CIA could tell the FBI, helped keep those dots unconnected.
On Sunday, Trump tried to backtrack. “I’m not blaming [Bush],†he said. Right.
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You are a msm, dem shill. You must be to want to refight all those old battles with Pelosi’ s talking points.
A lot of what you listed troubles me greatly also, but I just can’t pull the lever for Elmer Cruz.
Well said. Trump and his supporters have sure poisoned the process.
It is highly disappointing that Trump can begin spouting the liberal Democrat talking points and some “conservatives” buy into them without a second thought.
“The rent a crowd Trumpeteers will eventually go back to DU..”
Bingo! They will be back to the DUck pen by Nov 9th 2016.
Hearing what you want to believe he meant, not what he actually said, how deluded.
Are coherent posts allowed here anymore?
Trump is a code pink republican and has not earned my families vote anymore(if ever)
If Trump’s statements were “crossing the line” then so have 95% (or more) of the mainstream media (especially the NYT) who have been feeding those lines to the public for 2 decades
I guess this makes Trump guilty of believing what the press writes, which I believe once he sees classified information will be an eye opener to him
BTW, Trump didn’t really “blame” Bush for 911 but when Jeb said his brother “made us safer” Trump, a New Yorker, incredulously pointed out that the WTC came down on Bush’s watch.
Granted Bush had but 9 months in office to read up on al Qaeda, to assess and prioritize the threats against us, and to reform and decompartmentalize Jamie Gorelick’s ruinous intelligence community walls
but he was the potus
In industry and in the military, when the ship goes down the Captain is responsible whether he caused it or not
Who made the ad? It was a PAC ad.
There are points in every political campaign that cause me to pause and consider things.
In the end I take a good long look in the mirror and ask myself if I can live with my decision.
Can I short the one thing about myself that only I can control for short lived political reasons.
That’s part of taking care of my character.
We each must live with ourselves.
Back when the decision to go to war with Iraq was made, it just did not make sense. I could not see the connection to the Twin Towers terrorism. Afghanistan, yes, maybe. But Iraq? No. WMD’s in Iraq? It could not be proven before the war, nor during, nor after.
The libs said at the onset of the second Iraq war that Bush II was just getting revenge for daddy. I wondered if they were right back then.
It was not popular to bash a Bush at Free Conservatives or FR back then. With hindsight being 20 20, Bush was definitely a lib, and possible a NWO jerk like daddy.
Had Saddam been kept in power, that region would have been more secure. Now look at the mess that evolved thanks to Bush. Yes, Bush screwed up so bad we got obama. I am not talking just about the Iraq war or the economy. I’m talking about push back. He could have pushed the libs back a little so the brainwashed public would not have elected obama in the first place.
Bush’s are first class anti-American globalist losers! I think the public is aware of this, which is why the public wants no more Bush’s or Clinton’s.
It’s Trumps time. Actually, I see a scary comparison to the rise of Hitler. I don’t think Trump will be a Hitler, but his coming to power has many similarities.
A once proud, now beaten down trodden nation, reviving itself under the leadership of a very proud man. A very popular man. Nationalism coming back to the surface. Many similarities between Germany and the US.
Trump used the left’s canard that Bush lied (knowingly told a falsehood) about WMD in Iraq. Plenty of people besides Bush saw the same Intelligence and agreed with the various world spy agencies that said Saddam had WMD. For Trump to use such a calumny, we see that he is either profoundly ignorant of these events and the facts surrounding the war or that he has no shame in choosing a calumny. Neither one speaks well of his character and his capability to deal in good faith with others.
You sure know how to persuade us to your side...
American politics have always been...... Raucous, even Churchill commented on it to his brother.
This election however is plumbing new lows.
What next?
Physical attacks on people within our own party?
Over some candidate who, in normal times, we would laugh at?
We are becoming like the democrats we abhor and deride.
We are letting emotions control the political process.
Facts have fallen out of favor. It’s all about who has the coolest catchphrase and the loudest and most obnoxious cheerleaders.
The Founding Fathers must be weeping in their graves.
He is not part of the establishment political-intelligence apparatchik and Trump, like most Americans of all income classes, has been steeped in what the chattering classes have been feeding America for 24 years- “Bush Lied People Died”
GWBush himself failed to mount a vigorous defense of his own decisions and spent most of his second term meekly ducking and covering in noble silence under attack, encouraging and even feeding this whole meme that Saddam was no threat to us and that Bush's decision to go into Iraq TO ENFORCE UN MANDATES was fabricated for personal reasons
I believe Trump's views are wrong wrong wrong but I understand why he has them
I think once he is “read in” on national security issues and starts receiving classified information, it will change his views on a lot of things
God let’s hope so if we make such a huge mistake because right now he’s either ignorant (and yes he is not read in) or he’s keen to harm the USA at any expense for his own benefit.
Agree. This site used to be raucous but thoughtful. With the arrival of Trump, it’s more often only raucous and anti-intellectual, like Trump.
That’s right you GOPe Neo-con, cheap labor express Bushbots...defend your precious idiot GWB!! Clinton came about from GHW Bush and his son begat obama....you disgust me and make me sick with your desire to lose the general election.
” Many similarities between Germany and the US.”
except for the humiliating Treaty of Versailles and the treatment of Germany by the allies
and the suffering of Germans under the economic collapse of the Weimar Republic
Oh oh and blaming the Jews for that suffering and for the international financial cabal against Germany that tried to constrain German economic redevelopment, with the resentment of the industrialists and their sympathy to a firebrand nationalist that promised to fight or ignore this as a partnership
Oh, and then there were the unresolved historical territorial claims
But other than those minor things, I guess we can compare modern American to post WW1 Germany OK
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