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To: elhombrelibre

Back when the decision to go to war with Iraq was made, it just did not make sense. I could not see the connection to the Twin Towers terrorism. Afghanistan, yes, maybe. But Iraq? No. WMD’s in Iraq? It could not be proven before the war, nor during, nor after.

The libs said at the onset of the second Iraq war that Bush II was just getting revenge for daddy. I wondered if they were right back then.

It was not popular to bash a Bush at Free Conservatives or FR back then. With hindsight being 20 20, Bush was definitely a lib, and possible a NWO jerk like daddy.

Had Saddam been kept in power, that region would have been more secure. Now look at the mess that evolved thanks to Bush. Yes, Bush screwed up so bad we got obama. I am not talking just about the Iraq war or the economy. I’m talking about push back. He could have pushed the libs back a little so the brainwashed public would not have elected obama in the first place.

Bush’s are first class anti-American globalist losers! I think the public is aware of this, which is why the public wants no more Bush’s or Clinton’s.

It’s Trumps time. Actually, I see a scary comparison to the rise of Hitler. I don’t think Trump will be a Hitler, but his coming to power has many similarities.

A once proud, now beaten down trodden nation, reviving itself under the leadership of a very proud man. A very popular man. Nationalism coming back to the surface. Many similarities between Germany and the US.


32 posted on 02/17/2016 4:49:38 AM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: redfreedom

” Many similarities between Germany and the US.”

except for the humiliating Treaty of Versailles and the treatment of Germany by the allies

and the suffering of Germans under the economic collapse of the Weimar Republic

Oh oh and blaming the Jews for that suffering and for the international financial cabal against Germany that tried to constrain German economic redevelopment, with the resentment of the industrialists and their sympathy to a firebrand nationalist that promised to fight or ignore this as a partnership

Oh, and then there were the unresolved historical territorial claims

But other than those minor things, I guess we can compare modern American to post WW1 Germany OK


40 posted on 02/17/2016 5:11:47 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: redfreedom

Comparing Trump to Hitler is not something I would do. I do think that the leadership principle is a similar tenet that they both share, and that their supporters were and are uncritical about the LEADER, but Trump does not advocate the types of things Hitler advocated. Trump is actually fond of Putin, and would probably behave more like him. He’s said that Putin’s probably not a murderer and, if he is, he is no different than the USA. So we see that in Trump’s mind his model is probably more like Putin than like Hitler.


45 posted on 02/17/2016 5:17:48 AM PST by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution. Go Cruz.)
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To: redfreedom

Iraq war was sold and authorized on Saddam’s refusal for UN inspections, not the MSM’s claim of “he has WMDs”. Read up on the UN resolutions and Bush’s authorization to Congress for cripes sake. It’s the MSM that re-cast it as a proof of WMDs vs. refusal of UN resolutions and inspections. It was a calculated lie to favor the dems, particularly those who voted in favor of the use of force resolution.

When the Dems took over congress in 2007 they cut Iraq OCO funds causing a timeline for US withdrawl. After the US withdrawl from Iraq in 2009 (Obama) the region went to hell. ISIS emerged in 2011 (Obama). The Arab Spring kicked off in 2012 (Obama). And the MSM and Dems (+ Trump) blame GWB for the region’s destabilization 3 years after the withdrawal of US troops? Delusional!

Saddam’s refusal of inspections obviated the existence of Iraqi WMD programs (and oil smuggling).

As for Saddam’s WMDs they are still very topical. When the coalition invaded Iraq (Baathist party) in 2003 Saddam shipped Iraq’s stockpile of WMDs to Syria (also Baathist). ISIS overran several bases they were stored at beginning in 2012. ISIS subsequently used Iraqi Sarin gas against Syrian civilians in 2013. At the time the MSM blamed Assad in order to continue their complicit covering of the existence of Iraqi WMDs and justify action against Assad. They knew it was Saddam’s Sarin and their lie stands today.

ISIS continues to use Saddam’s Syrian-stored WMDs and the US MSM remains silent to protect their false narrative and shield the Dems in their culpability.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-34212324


59 posted on 02/17/2016 5:49:44 AM PST by Justa
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To: redfreedom

“Nationalism coming back to the surface”

You don’t particularly like nationalism? Why do you think all those hundreds of thousands of soldiers died fighting for this country? They did it to defend and perpetuate this nation and no other. They did it for you, so you would have the right to haughtily smirk at their sacrifice, which is what you are doing.

Nationalism is enshrined in the Constitution. That is why the globalist don’t like the Constitution. Globalists pass laws like TPA and TPP to get around the Constitution. They also pass laws like the Corker bill, that strengthen our enemies and imperil this nation. You are aware of that, aren’t you?


65 posted on 02/17/2016 6:15:28 AM PST by odawg
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