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Trump Steals Jeb's Strategy, Tries to Win the Republican Primary Without the Base
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | February 16, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/16/2016 5:21:24 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: Did I not tell you? Did I tell you, right here it is in the Wall Street Journal: "Donald Trump Makes Pitch to Democrats in South Carolina." That had to be the explanation for Trump's strategy on Saturday night. It had to be. South Carolina is an open primary.

Polling data's all over the place, by the way. The internal Bush poll for which there are two sources -- so somebody in the Bush camp is leaking polling data, 'cause this is internal stuff -- and the internal polling of candidates we hardly ever see, and, in this case, it's not all that close to the public polls that we have. In the public polls, Trump still has a reasonable lead. In the internal Bush poll he's only got two-point lead, which is margin of error tie. It is 26-24 in the internal. That would explain -- Trump probably has the same data -- that would explain Trump going after Cruz, and he did yesterday, the press conference. Got those sound bites, as I promised. He doubled down on it all today. And then backed off and then tripled down on it. Says he's gonna sue Cruz, now he's not sure if he's gonna sue Cruz.

But, anyway, Trump is making a play for voters other than Republicans. Now, isn't it fascinating, because let me ask you a little pop quiz. Who, in the Republican primary, started out by claiming happily and joyfully that he was gonna win the Republican nomination without the base? Exactly right, Mr. Snerdley. It was Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush and the donor class were gonna win this nomination despite the base. Remember this, now? And isn't it fascinating that the guy who's actually trying to pull that off and may have some success at it is Donald Trump.

Isn't it amazing the way things turn. Yet Jeb and the donor boys were gonna go out and just flood this primary with money. They were gonna divide the conservative candidates in the race. They were gonna divide their money, divide their voter support. And the old rule of politics, that he has the money wins, Jeb was gonna end up scorching the field simply because they wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of money he did.

And look, Jeb is in last place depending on the poll you look at, and there hasn't been any significant upward movement in any way, shape, manner, or form. He brings out former President George W. Bush yesterday. And I don't know.

Have you seen some of the comparisons? Some of the comparisons are why isn't W. running again, this guy is on top of it, this guy comes off as a confident cowboy, all kinds of rave reviews about W. out there, but I'm hearing people say that the contrast from W. to Jeb is not that good. Anyway, I find it curious, that they were gonna race to victory without the base, and Trump is the guy doing it.

Now, in Trump's case, it's not the original -- or maybe it is. You know, maybe Trump has all along known that he was going to make this move in open-state primaries. I told you for the longest time here, Trump's constituency is not just members of the Republican base. It's not just conservatives. It's from all over the place. A lot of independents, a lot of moderates, a lot of what they call Reagan Democrats make up the Trump coalition. But this internal Bush poll, I'm sure Trump has access, makes it look like that he's not gonna have the slam-dunk South Carolina victory. Cruz creeping up so hence the attacks on Cruz. And for good measure he throws in similar attacks on Rubio.

But it is clear that that's what Trump's trying to do. Now, it could be self-preservation or it could be a desire just to smoke the field. If he wins big in South Carolina with a broad-based coalition, then he pretty much thinks that he may be able to hammer the final nail in the coffin, or it could be that he has to do this in order to win and the win might not be that big, because as I say, the polling is all over the place. But the internal Bush poll reported in two different places, there isn't any other pool that has Cruz anywhere near that close. Cruz is gaining, Cruz is outperforming in every primary election, he's outperforming where he stands in the polls. So we'll get into that in detail here in just a second.

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RUSH: Now, let's move on to the Republican race here. There are a series of stories on polls, and some are conflicting. Some are confirming. Let's see. Here we go. First up is the Columbia, South Carolina, The State newspaper poll. Donald Trump is still leading in the poll. This is after the debate, by the way -- after, as they call it, "the explosive Republican debate on Saturday night in Greenville, Trump still leads. The race for second place appears to be narrowing behind Trump, who has 35% after the debate."

Behind Trump's 35%, Rubio and Ted Cruz are tied now at 18%. Now, Trump almost doubles them individually. If you combine Cruz and Rubio, they lead Trump by a point; and that is interesting. Keep that in mind. Cruz and Rubio in South Carolina, The State poll, each at 18; Trump is at 36%. So you have... Well, another way to look at it on the Trump side is that 35% of the electorate in South Carolina, the Republicans. These are Republicans being polled, and Trump's at 35%, and all the other Republicans are picking up the remaining 65%.

And two of them, Cruz and Rubio, combined are at 36%. Public Policy Polling has the same results. In fact, it might be a Public Policy Polling poll. Yes, I'm sorry. The State is where this was published. It's PPP, Public Policy Polling, the left-wing polling outfit out of North Carolina. So Trump 35%, Cruz and Rubio 18% each. On the Democrat side, Hillary leads Bernie Sanders by 21 points. "Sanders is making gains among black voters but still trails by..." Well, it can't be 40, if Hillary has a 21-point margin.

In this story from Breitbart... Let's see if this is the same poll. Can't tell. I guess we'll have to read it together here to find out. "A new poll in South Carolina finds Donald Trump maintaining his large lead among likely Republican voters, but also shows Trump slipping slightly since Friday, while Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Gov. John Kasich edge higher. The new poll was conducted on Sunday by the South Carolina House Republican caucus and follows their previous poll released Friday, ahead of Saturday's Republican debate in Charleston."

The Sunday poll also conducted after the Republican debate on Saturday night. "In the new Monday poll, Trump leads the Republican field with 33% of the vote," So over at Public Policy Polling he's at 35. In the South Carolina GOP poll, he's at 33. That's "down two points since Friday.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Rubio are tied for second with 14%. Cruz is down two points since Friday and Rubio is up one point. Former Gov. Jeb Bush is in 4th with 13% support, edging out Gov. John Kasich, who has 10%. Ben Carson is last, with just 6%" of the vote.

So what can we take away? Well, what we take away here is that in the immediate aftermath of the Saturday night debate, no measurable negative impact on Trump has been measured. But some people say that you need to wait two or three days for something like that to settle in and look at polls taken two or three days after a debate to have a more accurate portrayal of people's opinions on it. Folks, you remember when Trump said that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any of his support? I think he's fairly close to being accurate there.

We've spent hours on this program explaining why that is, explaining his appeal. There's a guy in the New York Post named Mark Cunningham with another stab at explaining Trump today, which I'll share with you in just a moment. But as I said yesterday, if this performance on Saturday night... Now, let's sum it up again. This was a Republican debate. We had the front-runner extolling the virtues of Planned Parenthood. That's never been done before. I don't even think John Kasich would do it. We've never had that.

Did Romney do it? Did Huntsman do it? I can't remember. I don't think it's ever happened. I don't think a Republican front-runner has ever extolled the virtues of Planned Parenthood, as clearly and loudly as Trump did. Trump also went after, in South Carolina, a revered former president, George W. Bush, who still maintains an 80, 83% approval rating there. He not only went after Bush, he went after him as didn't keep the country safe, the Twin Towers came down while he was president, and he knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.

I mean, he went into this debate and it was clear what he was doing, to me. It's an open primary; Democrats and independents can vote. Trump needs them or wants them, one of the two. Either Cruz is gaining ground rapidly and he needs those votes or he wants those votes to just swamp the rest of the field in the Saturday night primary and put the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. It won't be over if he wins big on Saturday, but it would be closer.

But he's also signaling a bunch of other things that, as the front-runner, to say these things -- and if it didn't hurt... My point yesterday, I'll repeat it: If it didn't hurt, I think it demonstrates even more so the disconnect between the establishment and the people, Washington DC, and the rest of the country expect. And I don't think the establishment even now has any idea the rage, the anger, the betrayal, which is what it is.

The majority of people in this country feel a profound sense of betrayal by the Republican Party, and there's a deep resentment that a bunch of faceless, nameless money brokers, lobbyists, and donors are shaping the future of the country by virtue of neutering the Republican Party. And the outrage at that is profound and deep to the point that if this doesn't hurt Trump, it's just gonna put an exclamation point on how angry, how ticked off, on both sides of the aisle, people are.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backonoxy; deaf; rubio; rushlimbaugh; trump
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To: heights

I thought Rush wasn’t fat any more?


41 posted on 02/16/2016 5:47:00 PM PST by Rebelbase (Best election ever. Sick of it already, but best election ever.)
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To: map

Actually, after reading the transcript he is right. Either Trump feels pressure from Cruz and is reaching out for the Indie, Moderate and Dem vote (open primary), or he’s looking for to score a YUGE victory to give the air of inevitability (a little early for that, though).


42 posted on 02/16/2016 5:48:49 PM PST by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject)
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To: Rebelbase; heights

Leftists will always consider Rush to be fat.


43 posted on 02/16/2016 5:49:03 PM PST by Balding_Eagle ( (The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: xzins

Rush is simply acting as an informed person, like many of us, that a candidate with an ultra-liberal, big government, statist agenda, that has openly attacked conservatives and what we stand for, is leading in the Republican race. That’s the agenda you support, and not the agenda Rush supports. It appears many people just like a good show over principle and we thought people on our side were more discerning than this, but apparently not. We are no different than the Democrats who were enamored with Obama - it’s purely a personality cult and Trump is in people’s minds whatever they want him to be - not what he actually is.


44 posted on 02/16/2016 5:49:36 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: TexasCajun

“What makes you think you can win the general election with only 35-40% of the vote.”

After the Two Cubans drop out and stop sucking up all the air, Trump will have 75-80% of pubbies, and a solid majority of the electorate.


45 posted on 02/16/2016 5:50:51 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ripnbang

It could be he’s trying to incorporate democrat blue collar voters into his base.

The old Reagan coalition included blue collar democrats. They are more libertarian now than then in many things, but they are protective of jobs and industries in America that provide jobs.


46 posted on 02/16/2016 5:50:57 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kaslin

I’m sure you do know that Clinton could have neutralized Bin Laden. He didn’t.

The next president could have taken pre-emptive action if Bin Laden were on his radar.

Was Trump aware of Bin Laden’s intentions? We’re the hijackers known to US intelligence agencies?

The right president could have, not would have, but could have asked questions and made decisions and, perhaps with a little luck, taken out Bin Laden and thwarted the attack.


47 posted on 02/16/2016 5:51:18 PM PST by map
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To: sagar

....”Trump’s “base” is MoveOn.org. The conservative base is with Cruz”....

I call them Obama-nites with Trump....same group though some are scattered with Sanders as well.....just depends on where the rallies are because those people show up for anything free and a sense of “belonging”....and why Trumps rallies grow and grow....it’s the happening place to be for them....and they get to see a celebrity for free.

I also heard that the unsavory activist groups are also showing up....like they do at other venues where large groups gather...


48 posted on 02/16/2016 5:53:35 PM PST by caww
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To: map

Kind of like Rush trying to have a Conservative show without the base. Like to see his numbers over the past 3 mos.

Pray America wakes


49 posted on 02/16/2016 5:54:40 PM PST by bray (Trump/Palin 2016)
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To: heights

He also played up one or two point fluctuations in the polls. Not the Rush I remember.


50 posted on 02/16/2016 5:55:00 PM PST by proust (Texan for Trump! The Art Of The Comeback!)
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To: Helicondelta

I think the results on Saturday will be

Trump
Rubio
Jeb
Cruz
Carson
Kasich


51 posted on 02/16/2016 5:56:24 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Kaslin

“hook, line, and sinker”

My years in the army says there are better commanders and there are worse commanders. Force protection was always a huge issue, and you really got just one shot at doing it right.

Getting force protection wrong and getting a calamity on your watch and on your efficiency report was a promotion killer if not a career killer.

Generals tend to be either lucky, guys who never had something they didn’t catch in time, or they were actually that good. They never had something sneak up on them that they didn’t catch in time.

I understand Patton was ahead of Eisenhower on Hitler’s buildup for the Battle of the Bulge. He’d already had his intel and ops people working on it for days, so when asked he astounded them by saying he could have multiple divisions in support in hours.

He saw it coming.


52 posted on 02/16/2016 5:56:37 PM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: TexasCajun
I did not watch the debate on Saturday because I went with my son to Florida to pick up a Harley he had bought, but I had set my DVR before we left to record it. After we came back on Sunday afternoon I watched it later in the evening and today I watched it again.

I was so disgusted by his behavior. First his demeanor at the moment of silence for Justice Scalia at the beginning of the debate.

While all the other candidates bowed their head, he stood there like a klutz with his head held high, as if the death of Justice Scalia meant nothing to him. (As a democrat that he still is despite claiming he is now a Republican, it probably meant nothing to him.

53 posted on 02/16/2016 5:56:48 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Kaslin

Americans love Trump. It cuts across demographics. It will be needed to win the General Election.


54 posted on 02/16/2016 5:56:56 PM PST by patq
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To: sagar

Well, if the Conservative base is with Ted Cruz, it means it is only 20% or so of the Party, so I guess Donald Trump can win without it. Especially when he is going to have the MoveOn.org vote as well.


55 posted on 02/16/2016 5:57:25 PM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: ripnbang

Rush did eventually say he would support the Republican nominee.


56 posted on 02/16/2016 5:57:47 PM PST by map
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To: caww

As long as he opposes funding abortion he’s good with most conservatives.

Trump is forming a big coalition by advancing the policies that are supported by conservatives and moderates, and not advancing policies that are opposed by either group.
Cruz just advances conservative policies and counts on forming a coalition by persuading moderates to accept them.
A noble plan but a much more difficult task than Trump’s.


57 posted on 02/16/2016 5:58:01 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: Kaslin

This is just hogwash and I’m sol glad that I’ve stopped listening to Rush!


58 posted on 02/16/2016 5:58:38 PM PST by nopardons
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59 posted on 02/16/2016 5:59:00 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Kaslin

So, once again, I am told that I need to choose between men who have been the conservative standard bearers for decades (Rush, Mark Levin, Sowell) and a man who not only hasn’t been conservative in the past, but who actually praised Planned Parenthood at a Republican debate! Anyone who says anything negative about Trump must be excommunicated. It’s like a damn cult or something!

No candidate is perfect. I’ll vote for the Republican nominee (because all of them are better than Romney or McInsane... well except Jeb). But the way that Trump and his supporters are tearing down all of conservatism and its allies, who is he going to have left when he’s done? Who will be left to expand conservatism when everyone who dares point out any flaws in Trump must be destroted? This doesn’t sound like Trump is an advocate for conservatism. He’s willing to destroy it to win...


60 posted on 02/16/2016 6:00:15 PM PST by Charles H. (The_r0nin) (Hwaet! Lar bith maest hord, sothlice!)
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