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Trump Steals Jeb's Strategy, Tries to Win the Republican Primary Without the Base
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | February 16, 2016 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/16/2016 5:21:24 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: Did I not tell you? Did I tell you, right here it is in the Wall Street Journal: "Donald Trump Makes Pitch to Democrats in South Carolina." That had to be the explanation for Trump's strategy on Saturday night. It had to be. South Carolina is an open primary.

Polling data's all over the place, by the way. The internal Bush poll for which there are two sources -- so somebody in the Bush camp is leaking polling data, 'cause this is internal stuff -- and the internal polling of candidates we hardly ever see, and, in this case, it's not all that close to the public polls that we have. In the public polls, Trump still has a reasonable lead. In the internal Bush poll he's only got two-point lead, which is margin of error tie. It is 26-24 in the internal. That would explain -- Trump probably has the same data -- that would explain Trump going after Cruz, and he did yesterday, the press conference. Got those sound bites, as I promised. He doubled down on it all today. And then backed off and then tripled down on it. Says he's gonna sue Cruz, now he's not sure if he's gonna sue Cruz.

But, anyway, Trump is making a play for voters other than Republicans. Now, isn't it fascinating, because let me ask you a little pop quiz. Who, in the Republican primary, started out by claiming happily and joyfully that he was gonna win the Republican nomination without the base? Exactly right, Mr. Snerdley. It was Jeb Bush. Jeb Bush and the donor class were gonna win this nomination despite the base. Remember this, now? And isn't it fascinating that the guy who's actually trying to pull that off and may have some success at it is Donald Trump.

Isn't it amazing the way things turn. Yet Jeb and the donor boys were gonna go out and just flood this primary with money. They were gonna divide the conservative candidates in the race. They were gonna divide their money, divide their voter support. And the old rule of politics, that he has the money wins, Jeb was gonna end up scorching the field simply because they wouldn't have anywhere near the amount of money he did.

And look, Jeb is in last place depending on the poll you look at, and there hasn't been any significant upward movement in any way, shape, manner, or form. He brings out former President George W. Bush yesterday. And I don't know.

Have you seen some of the comparisons? Some of the comparisons are why isn't W. running again, this guy is on top of it, this guy comes off as a confident cowboy, all kinds of rave reviews about W. out there, but I'm hearing people say that the contrast from W. to Jeb is not that good. Anyway, I find it curious, that they were gonna race to victory without the base, and Trump is the guy doing it.

Now, in Trump's case, it's not the original -- or maybe it is. You know, maybe Trump has all along known that he was going to make this move in open-state primaries. I told you for the longest time here, Trump's constituency is not just members of the Republican base. It's not just conservatives. It's from all over the place. A lot of independents, a lot of moderates, a lot of what they call Reagan Democrats make up the Trump coalition. But this internal Bush poll, I'm sure Trump has access, makes it look like that he's not gonna have the slam-dunk South Carolina victory. Cruz creeping up so hence the attacks on Cruz. And for good measure he throws in similar attacks on Rubio.

But it is clear that that's what Trump's trying to do. Now, it could be self-preservation or it could be a desire just to smoke the field. If he wins big in South Carolina with a broad-based coalition, then he pretty much thinks that he may be able to hammer the final nail in the coffin, or it could be that he has to do this in order to win and the win might not be that big, because as I say, the polling is all over the place. But the internal Bush poll reported in two different places, there isn't any other pool that has Cruz anywhere near that close. Cruz is gaining, Cruz is outperforming in every primary election, he's outperforming where he stands in the polls. So we'll get into that in detail here in just a second.

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RUSH: Now, let's move on to the Republican race here. There are a series of stories on polls, and some are conflicting. Some are confirming. Let's see. Here we go. First up is the Columbia, South Carolina, The State newspaper poll. Donald Trump is still leading in the poll. This is after the debate, by the way -- after, as they call it, "the explosive Republican debate on Saturday night in Greenville, Trump still leads. The race for second place appears to be narrowing behind Trump, who has 35% after the debate."

Behind Trump's 35%, Rubio and Ted Cruz are tied now at 18%. Now, Trump almost doubles them individually. If you combine Cruz and Rubio, they lead Trump by a point; and that is interesting. Keep that in mind. Cruz and Rubio in South Carolina, The State poll, each at 18; Trump is at 36%. So you have... Well, another way to look at it on the Trump side is that 35% of the electorate in South Carolina, the Republicans. These are Republicans being polled, and Trump's at 35%, and all the other Republicans are picking up the remaining 65%.

And two of them, Cruz and Rubio, combined are at 36%. Public Policy Polling has the same results. In fact, it might be a Public Policy Polling poll. Yes, I'm sorry. The State is where this was published. It's PPP, Public Policy Polling, the left-wing polling outfit out of North Carolina. So Trump 35%, Cruz and Rubio 18% each. On the Democrat side, Hillary leads Bernie Sanders by 21 points. "Sanders is making gains among black voters but still trails by..." Well, it can't be 40, if Hillary has a 21-point margin.

In this story from Breitbart... Let's see if this is the same poll. Can't tell. I guess we'll have to read it together here to find out. "A new poll in South Carolina finds Donald Trump maintaining his large lead among likely Republican voters, but also shows Trump slipping slightly since Friday, while Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Gov. John Kasich edge higher. The new poll was conducted on Sunday by the South Carolina House Republican caucus and follows their previous poll released Friday, ahead of Saturday's Republican debate in Charleston."

The Sunday poll also conducted after the Republican debate on Saturday night. "In the new Monday poll, Trump leads the Republican field with 33% of the vote," So over at Public Policy Polling he's at 35. In the South Carolina GOP poll, he's at 33. That's "down two points since Friday.

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) and Rubio are tied for second with 14%. Cruz is down two points since Friday and Rubio is up one point. Former Gov. Jeb Bush is in 4th with 13% support, edging out Gov. John Kasich, who has 10%. Ben Carson is last, with just 6%" of the vote.

So what can we take away? Well, what we take away here is that in the immediate aftermath of the Saturday night debate, no measurable negative impact on Trump has been measured. But some people say that you need to wait two or three days for something like that to settle in and look at polls taken two or three days after a debate to have a more accurate portrayal of people's opinions on it. Folks, you remember when Trump said that he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and not lose any of his support? I think he's fairly close to being accurate there.

We've spent hours on this program explaining why that is, explaining his appeal. There's a guy in the New York Post named Mark Cunningham with another stab at explaining Trump today, which I'll share with you in just a moment. But as I said yesterday, if this performance on Saturday night... Now, let's sum it up again. This was a Republican debate. We had the front-runner extolling the virtues of Planned Parenthood. That's never been done before. I don't even think John Kasich would do it. We've never had that.

Did Romney do it? Did Huntsman do it? I can't remember. I don't think it's ever happened. I don't think a Republican front-runner has ever extolled the virtues of Planned Parenthood, as clearly and loudly as Trump did. Trump also went after, in South Carolina, a revered former president, George W. Bush, who still maintains an 80, 83% approval rating there. He not only went after Bush, he went after him as didn't keep the country safe, the Twin Towers came down while he was president, and he knew there were no weapons of mass destruction.

I mean, he went into this debate and it was clear what he was doing, to me. It's an open primary; Democrats and independents can vote. Trump needs them or wants them, one of the two. Either Cruz is gaining ground rapidly and he needs those votes or he wants those votes to just swamp the rest of the field in the Saturday night primary and put the final nail in the coffin, so to speak. It won't be over if he wins big on Saturday, but it would be closer.

But he's also signaling a bunch of other things that, as the front-runner, to say these things -- and if it didn't hurt... My point yesterday, I'll repeat it: If it didn't hurt, I think it demonstrates even more so the disconnect between the establishment and the people, Washington DC, and the rest of the country expect. And I don't think the establishment even now has any idea the rage, the anger, the betrayal, which is what it is.

The majority of people in this country feel a profound sense of betrayal by the Republican Party, and there's a deep resentment that a bunch of faceless, nameless money brokers, lobbyists, and donors are shaping the future of the country by virtue of neutering the Republican Party. And the outrage at that is profound and deep to the point that if this doesn't hurt Trump, it's just gonna put an exclamation point on how angry, how ticked off, on both sides of the aisle, people are.

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1 posted on 02/16/2016 5:21:24 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I felt bad for Rush today. I never heard him hem and haw so much. He did say he overslept.


2 posted on 02/16/2016 5:25:56 PM PST by map
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To: Kaslin

www.jebbush.com

click it


3 posted on 02/16/2016 5:25:58 PM PST by dontreadthis
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To: Kaslin

El FATSO the Rino apologist has Spoken. I truly despise this deceitful, Backstabbing with false praise, Elitist, “Make them Legal”, unlimited Free Trader, PUKE.


4 posted on 02/16/2016 5:26:03 PM PST by heights
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To: Kaslin

That would be a great article, if it weren’t for the fact he’s winning the base too.

Evangelicals, self-described very Conservative people, men, women, Blacks, Hispanics..., Trump is doing well with all of them.

Spitter, sputter, all kerfuffle and flutter...

How can Trump be doing this? Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...


5 posted on 02/16/2016 5:26:53 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Kaslin

“Polling data’s all over the place, by the way” Another El Fatso LIE.


6 posted on 02/16/2016 5:27:45 PM PST by heights
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To: Kaslin

Trump is supported not just by Conservatives but he is supported by working class, Women, Hispanics , Black Americans, Military, Young, X’rs, Democrats , Republicans and Independants (like me) .We want our border shut down. We want our jobs and COUNTRY back and we want to KICK ASS!! He is our next president. Get on the train or get off the track!!


7 posted on 02/16/2016 5:27:56 PM PST by WENDLE (Trump is not bought . He is no puppet.)
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To: Kaslin

LOL. The base is solidly behind Trump.

But Rush’s boy Rubio is not doing too well.

Rush’s predictions have been wrong everytime.


8 posted on 02/16/2016 5:28:02 PM PST by Helicondelta
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To: Kaslin

He gets the biggest share of the base.


9 posted on 02/16/2016 5:29:08 PM PST by ObamahatesPACoal (And Trump could win it all My rightful place from birth Dad ive let you down Dub ive made you hurt)
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To: LS; ripnbang; VanDeKoik; Helicondelta

Time to tell Rush Limbaugh to “shut-up” about that Jeb Bush poll like you did me and several others. LOL


10 posted on 02/16/2016 5:30:20 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Helicondelta

Trump’s “base” is MoveOn.org. The conservative base is with Cruz.


11 posted on 02/16/2016 5:30:56 PM PST by sagar (3 way race; cranky populist - Trump/Sanders, establishment - Hillary/Kaysick, conservative - Cruz!)
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To: map

But it’s not about sleep.


12 posted on 02/16/2016 5:31:01 PM PST by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: Kaslin

I love Rush. He is a national treasure. I can’t tell you how many times he has made an observation about the political scene which was downright prophetic.

Rock on, Rush!


13 posted on 02/16/2016 5:31:02 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Kaslin
I have a question for Mr. Trump and his supporters, should he win the nomination.

What makes you think you can win the general election with only 35-40% of the vote.

If you think you will garner the other primary opponents supporters votes after the lies, mocking & insults you might think twice.

Do you really think Trump will garner enough Democrats in the general election?

Explain to me how you get winning numbers after the Primaries?

I've said I'm Cruz/Trump.

But I'm seriously considering taking the time vote for every Republican on my Nov ballot, except Trump. ...should he win the nomination.

14 posted on 02/16/2016 5:31:34 PM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: Kaslin

Rush is for: Making them Legal And Unfettered Trade. How is he a Nationalist again?


15 posted on 02/16/2016 5:31:46 PM PST by heights
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To: TexasCajun

And how do you think Cruz will win with 19%?


16 posted on 02/16/2016 5:32:32 PM PST by heights
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To: heights

Well, at least Obama agrees with the big guy.


17 posted on 02/16/2016 5:33:44 PM PST by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: heights

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18 posted on 02/16/2016 5:34:28 PM PST by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him. He got them and now we have to pay the consequences)
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To: Bogie

On the Big Issues, I don’t see a difference.


19 posted on 02/16/2016 5:34:34 PM PST by heights
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To: Kaslin
Rush warned of this in 2012 with Romney as well. The biggest difference was that Romney didn't go out of his way to anger supporters of other candidates.

Rush: Romney is winning like a liberal

Also

Rush Goes On the Record with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren (December 2011)

Here's the big problem, Greta, for the Republicans. And I am a lone wolf on this. The rule of thumb in elections, both parties, 40 percent are going to vote Democrat automatically, whatever you do, 40 percent are going to vote Republican, automatic, no matter what you do. And in the middle, who do we have? The precious, God love them, independents and the moderates. And they are the targets. They are the focus of every election. And our brilliant campaign consultants tell our candidates they are the ones that know how to go get a majority of those independents. And we have, as Republicans, put ourselves in prison to this whole silly notion that you only win elections by moving to the center and getting great independents. Fine and dandy, but if you squander your base in the process, you haven't a prayer.
20 posted on 02/16/2016 5:34:49 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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