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Thanks to Army Air Corps for the ping!!
Posted on 02/15/2016 10:52:46 AM PST by blam
Feburary 14, 2016
Paul_Behan
Don’t Keep Your Personal Or Financial Data On A Windows 10 Machine!
Well not if you want to keep it private. Like many people I was surprised at the Edward Snowden revelations a few years ago. Nothing has seemed to change and in many cases things have got worse. Some corporations are in partnership with government agencies in regard to collection of data.
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According to this an article, (1) even after turning off all the tracking options on a computer, the researcher left the computer on overnight and tracked the traffic. He was surprised to find that Windows 10 had attempted to contact 51 Microsoft IP addresses 5,508 times. Some of the website addresses contacted include: (2)
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If Windows is left unattended for about 15 minutes, a large volume of traffic starts being transmitted to various servers. This may be the raw audio data, rather than just samples.
If you are still running earlier versions of windows you would think you would be safe from this tracking, but updates have been released that install this tracking into the earlier versions. Fortunately these updates can be removed. I found that these updates were installed on my Windows 7 computer on the 25th of November 2015. The updates in question are: (3)
* KB3068708 – This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
* KB3022345 (replaced by KB3068708) – This update adds the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices.
* KB3075249 – This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature in order to collect data on elevations that come from low integrity levels.
* KB3080149 – This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
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(Excerpt) Read more at marketoracle.co.uk ...
Don’t worry your information is all available to the government through the cloud, so just do whatever you want to about Operating Systems.
My first and only Microsoft certs.
That’s good if you want to prevent a Windows 10 update. If you already have Windows 10 (for whatever reason) you want this (one of many similar articles) - http://www.pcworld.com/article/2971725/windows/how-to-reclaim-your-privacy-in-windows-10-piece-by-piece.html
You can get a linux system preloaded by System76 (Ubuntu systems) or ZaReason (Pretty much any linux system you might want) if you want to go that route. If you’re not certain, you can download and install a linux system to a USB drive to try it out and see if it is what you’d like to do. I cut the Windows cord many years ago and haven’t looked back.
I run Win XP behind Ubuntu. When I have something that has to run on Win I boot XP up and run it. At the end I disable the network and log out to Ubuntu. The next time I boot into XP, unless I have to have something from the web I leave the network shut down. Worked so far.
I’m stuck using Windows 10 now. That filthy company!!! All my engineering software runs on windows and I have to keep current for my companies. The windows 10 system, so far, has cost me over $8500 in upgraded software this year alone. I hate it. I can’t stand it. They do auto updates without permission or warning and you’ll lose all the data you haven’t saved. Walk out to the shop and it will shut down for auto updates you are not allowed to turn them off only acknowledge them. When I plug in my cellphone it will attempt uploading or downloading Win 10 for all the other machines thus wiping out all the data on the phone. Again, without telling you. As much as I’d love to just disconnect it from the internet it is not an option. So I’m stuck with this infestation from some marketing hack at MS dreamed up. Pretty soon I’m sure we’ll all be forced to install a coin slot on our machines and insert a quarter every time we want to do anything.
I wish Linux or Apple were an option but they aren’t.
Thanks for that. ping for more later.
I wouldn’t buy anything at least not yet.
Get an iso like Ubuntu that has a live mode. Boot from it and let it load. It’s a full fledged OS with lots of applications built in. If it works out and you can do the things you need and the printer you have works, I’d dual boot it.
The installer is user friendly and describes each step of the way of what’s going on.
Whatever password you use, DO NOT FORGET IT! Recovery and reset isn’t as easy as it is in Windoze in my experience.
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You can set it so that it does not run the update reboot without your permission.
So you wont have any privacy or freedom but at least you’ll be able to work.
The human race is headed into it’s darkest age. We are in the end game.
How would you recommend using Quicken on a Linux machine?
Some windows applications can be run under Linux using the Wine subsystem. I can run my Windows based business accounting application in this manner. I am not sure if Quicken will run on linux under wine (I replaced Quicken with Moneydance under linux a few years back). It should be possible to install Windows into a Virtual Machine under linux and run Quicken there if you need to (I have not done this, though).
If it wont work in wine virtualbox is the only way, now there are some linux accounting programs that work well, but the good ones require linux knowledge and a lot of time to setup properly,gnu cash specifically, now kmymoney is what I use for my personal checking account, real simple,works great. but you need to search around to see what else there is..
This thread is a keeper! not only for reference and study, but for all of the OTHER %#%&*)_%^$ problems with windows 10.
The file system is undecipherable (Save, save as and open).
My Windows 10 desktop exploded yesterday, can't even boot, traceable to a problem of using older (pre win8/10) USB memory sticks and fatal conflicts between NTFS and whatever the flock Windows 10 uses.
I'm not sure if I can rescue the current install, data, and the critical applications I use daily...
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Thanks to Army Air Corps for the ping!!
I'm having a hard time believing that Microsoft is willing to assume the legal liability for having that information.
Thanks dayglored
“....updates have been released that install this tracking into the earlier versions. Fortunately these updates can be removed. I found that these updates were installed on my Windows 7 computer on the 25th of November 2015. The updates in question are: (3)
* KB3068708 – This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
* KB3022345 (replaced by KB3068708) – This update adds the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices.
* KB3075249 – This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature in order to collect data on elevations that come from low integrity levels.
* KB3080149 – This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices.
Where else does M$ hide Win updates?
I am looking in “Uninstall an Update”.
I doubt Microsoft can avoid doing so. They're sending so-called "telemetry" that includes browsing and purchasing data. It's going to include personal data, there's no way to carefully separate it out. While they might not intentionally grab a copy of a user's 1040 Form out of their TurboTax folder, they're sending information that can reference it, describe it, talk about it... just like Google does with GMail. People write about financial matters all the time in email and other communications that are considered legit targets of these scans. Just because the information is allegedly "anonymized" doesn't mean it can't be lined up against other data and correlations made. Ever use Google's search? Thought so...
I don't need to have access to Microsoft's storage arrays to know that they have stuff in there that is private and personal. A moment's rational thought about what they admit they are collecting makes it obvious that personal stuff gets transmitted as well. There's no way not to have it happen.
> I'm having a hard time believing that Microsoft is willing to assume the legal liability for having that information.
I think it's a matter of survival in a consumer market that has stopped being about productivity and programming hobbies, and has become all about selling everything under the sun (see, e.g.: Amazon) to a buying base that is conditioned to accept "targeted ads" and "infomercials" and pitches posing as entertainment.
Microsoft has seen their once-unassailable grip on consumers sliding for over a decade, but Ballmer and his crew believed that merely tightening their grip on Windows was sufficient to stave off the threats of other OSes and later the mobile devices. They missed the boat entirely, and now their successors are desperate.
I think they are completely willing to take that risk. One, they have some really good lawyers. Two, they know that most people don't give a crap about privacy and are willing to bend over and show everything to a bunch of advertisers, just to save a buck or two on some purchase.
I believe Microsoft has decided that the legal liability is just the "cost of doing business" in a market they no longer control.
Given the installed base, one successful class action suit could easily be fatal.
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