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Trumpcare a mixture of socialism and incoherence
Washington Examiner ^ | 2/12/2016 | Philip Klein (@philipaklein)

Posted on 02/12/2016 9:54:57 AM PST by b4its2late

Edited on 02/12/2016 1:35:20 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

Now that Donald Trump has won the New Hampshire primary and proved himself as a legitimate threat to win the Republican nomination, it's time to take a serious look at his policy proposals. When it comes to health care, Trump hasn't had much to say of substance, but the policy pronouncements we have gotten from him are a mix of socialism and incoherence.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cantspell; healtcare; tds; trump
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1 posted on 02/12/2016 9:54:57 AM PST by b4its2late
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Trumpcare a mixture of socialism and incoherence

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2 posted on 02/12/2016 9:56:13 AM PST by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: b4its2late

Trump’s main pitch often reduces to:

I’m gonna manage Big Government better.


3 posted on 02/12/2016 9:59:28 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: b4its2late

D E S P E R A T I O N


4 posted on 02/12/2016 9:59:51 AM PST by DoughtyOne (the Free Republic Caucus: what FReepers are thinking, 100s or 1000s of them. It's up to you.)
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To: b4its2late

I listened to Trump and I’ve read Trump.

Nothing incoherent at all.

There are 2 groups: (1) those who can care for themselves, and (2) those who can’t care for themselves.

The first group has private insurance purchased across state lines and health savings plans are an available vehicle for them to use.

The second group, those who cannot care for themselves, has the government provided health care.

Nothing hard to understand about that at all.

What people DON’T want to admit is that we and the government used to pay for those indigent walk-ins to doctor’s offices and hospitals anyway. We paid through increased premiums, hidden costs on bills, deductions from taxes owed to the government by both businesses and individuals who had been zinged by the increased costs of indigents getting help through good Samaritan and other laws.

Bringing it out in the open, Trump says we should just man up and pay it, quit trying to hide it in higher bills, and admit we won’t let people die in the streets.

I support it.


5 posted on 02/12/2016 10:00:50 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Excellent, except that we don’t let people die in the streets and we already have gov’t healthcare for poor people.

If Trump is so “coherent” to you, explain what his plan is. How many people get on Trumpcare, what is the income level, etc.


6 posted on 02/12/2016 10:02:39 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: b4its2late

He will run it as well as his airline, I’m sure.

But since when is it the President’s job to run healthcare for everyone?


7 posted on 02/12/2016 10:03:00 AM PST by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: b4its2late

my two cents.

I have been on pills since 15. Mother was a nurse and always sending me to doctor.

till i woke up in my late 20s, i probably took 20,000 or more pills.

I needed maybe 100, for strep and pneumonia. out of all of them.

Once I broke the hypochondria, i got rid of the neurontin, the lyrica, the perccet, the Wellbutrin, the Zoloft, the xanax, and a few others.

Many were used for off label treatments.

The drug companies PAY the companies that decide if a drug is safe AND they only have to hand in to the FDA positive results if they want. the negative get tossed.

this can be fixed. by a non corrupt FDA and a tough pres.

I pick up my simvostatin and when I needed it, my BP medication at CVS an on the way out, i bought 10 kinds of jun food in their heavily junk food stocked aisles.

it’s free will an i bought them (i have since stopped for the most part), but does anyone fin it ironic that a Pharmacy sells more garbage than a deli?

it’s laughable.


8 posted on 02/12/2016 10:03:02 AM PST by dp0622
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To: D-fendr

It really boils down to that, or “Big Government is fine as long as you have some one great like me run it.”


9 posted on 02/12/2016 10:04:14 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: SoothingDave

It is coherent. 2 groups. Do you have that part understood?

Are you just asking the income thresholds for those that get government paid care?


10 posted on 02/12/2016 10:04:44 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The problem with that is the same with all socialist ideas, once you take care of group 2 with the government, there is no incentive for people to work hard to be in group 1.

This is why all socialist countries eventually go bankrupt, more and more people in group 2 and fewer and fewer people in group 1.

I can’t believe I have to explain this to someone on FR.


11 posted on 02/12/2016 10:06:59 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: SoothingDave

“we don’t let people die in the streets?” Maybe we just let them die in the VA Hospitals waiting to see a doctor. There are many, many, people who die in the streets. Are you living under a rock?


12 posted on 02/12/2016 10:07:13 AM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: b4its2late

I really don’t think that Trump’s economics are all that different from those of Hillary and Bernie. They all believe in the power of government controlled economic activity.


13 posted on 02/12/2016 10:07:40 AM PST by Brilliant
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To: Truthsearcher

We ALREADY were paying for them, TS.

We just were.


14 posted on 02/12/2016 10:10:24 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: b4its2late

Don’t worry. Any issue you have with anything in Government, just tell Trump and he’ll make it great. How? Because he’s the Donald. Duh!!!


15 posted on 02/12/2016 10:11:47 AM PST by Durbin
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To: xzins

Regarding your post #5. The problem is Trumps didn’t say it. You did. His rambling was gibberish. No one can be sure what he means. Maybe he doesn’t even know.


16 posted on 02/12/2016 10:17:01 AM PST by buckeye49
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To: xzins

So we should support Trump’s socialist policies because we already have socialist policies.

Not for me, now it’s the time that it’s even more important to not support more socialist policies.


17 posted on 02/12/2016 10:17:18 AM PST by Truthsearcher
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To: Durbin

Whatever position you think is right, Trump has it. Free market - check, big government - check, private health insurance - check, Canadian type health care - check, government regulation - check, deregulation - check. Donald is all things to all people he is the savior of the nation, just like he saved the USFL.


18 posted on 02/12/2016 10:18:20 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: buckeye49

No, he said it, and he’s written it, too.


19 posted on 02/12/2016 10:19:37 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DaveyB

“Donald is all things to all people he is the savior of the nation,”

All Hail King Donald. Make America Great Again!!!!


20 posted on 02/12/2016 10:19:39 AM PST by Durbin
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