Posted on 02/12/2016 5:04:14 AM PST by HomerBohn
If you've got a gun and you receive Social Security, you are now being targeted by the Obama administration.
In the latest stealth effort by the Communist administration, the Social Security Administration is wanting to list the names of those who receive Social Security benefits to the National Instant Check System (NICS) as "prohibited persons." This would effectively ban them from being able to purchase a gun and would target those who already own guns.
It would also be a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment's due process clause.
The LA Times has the story:
The push is intended to bring the Social Security Administration in line with laws regulating who gets reported to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or NICS, which is used to prevent gun sales to felons, drug addicts, immigrants in the country illegally and others.
A potentially large group within Social Security are people who, in the language of federal gun laws, are unable to manage their own affairs due to "marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease."
If Social Security, which has never participated in the background check system, uses the same standard as the VA, millions of its beneficiaries would be affected. About 4.2 million adults receive monthly benefits that are managed by 'representative payees.'
The Veterans Administration has been involved in this for years now, as they have sought to disarm our veterans, those who have fought to defend the very rights they are being deprived. My good friend Leon Puissegur seems to have been targeted in such a manner.
Just like the VA, the Social Security Administration would have no judicial oversight, which would mean they would end up violating the Constitutional rights of American citizens under the Second and Fifth Amendments.
We already know that the NICS system is being used to build a database, despite it being against the law to do so.
Owning a gun is not a crime. Being a veteran is not a crime. Being elderly is not a crime. Even being marked as having "subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease" is not a crime. Therefore, people's rights should not be infringed because a mentally ill, criminal usurper thinks they should be.
Any way this criminal administration can think of restricting or confiscating guns, they are looking to do it. Whether it is through the Veterans Administration, more background checks, or putting people on a random no-fly list, they are openly defying God, the people and the Constitution.
What Americans need to keep their eyes on is the simple fact that the united States Constitution does not grant any authority to DC politicians to write law nor impose by executive order the restriction of guns for citizens. Congress doesn't have that authority, the Executive Branch doesn't have that authority and neither does the Judicial Branch. This is a usurpation and always has been because every federal gun law is unconstitutional!
Does this exempt people who are 65 and over ?
If the dumbass Kenyan wants to play this game, then ALL DemocRAT voter registration lists should also be sent to NICS.
Is he assuming that all those getting SS have mental health problems???
Senior discount at your local dealer.
A damned good reason to not buy from a FFL or apply for a carry permit.
President Ted Cruz will rescind all this BS!
Obama trying to beat his own Gun Salesman of the Year numbers.
He is now definitely Salesman of the Century.
The problem with this story is it doesn’t make any reference to a specific person, case, or any legal fight. It drops a narrative and the reader is supposed to accept all of its assertions. Does anyone else see a problem here?
Please be advised, it’s not just guns. It’s everything. If you are over 65 and you go to your doctor, this year you will get a survey asking a lot of personal questions. Do you own a gun, but that’s just the beginning. They want to know if your furniture is safely arranged, what are your habits, how do you spend your time, how long have you smoked, how long have you consumed alcohol, etc. They are intruding in your life at every level and in every way. Guns are just one small part. The arrogance of this government is boundless. They do not see us as fully human. We are just chips on a board to be manipulated by them.
After a little investigating, it appears this ONLY applies to people receiving SS benefits who have a “representative payee”; e.g. people who have acknowledged that they are not mentally competent to manage their own affairs and have asked/had someone else appointed to manage their finances. I personally don’t think that there should be any limits on who can own a gun, if you are not in prison, you should be able to own a gun. I am just mentioning this to limit the knee jerk FR reaction of those who won’t read the article who will conclude that everyone on social security will lose their guns; that is clearly not the case here.
Most of the gun violence has been done by relatively you people, Major Hassan was probably the oldest, and he’s a Muslim.
Older people, sepecially veterans, were trained in firearms, and thus firearm safety. Veterans typically love America are not as likely to be mass shooters.
Seniors are not as able to protect themselves physically, but their weapon is the equalizer.
Obama acts as though he wants to make it easier for thugs to rob, maim, and do home invasions, unfettered. How long before gangs of gimmedats just stroll into your house and take whatever they want, including your house?
Guilty until proven innocent with no way to prove one’s innocence.
Stalin would approve!
he better be careful moving about
his name is on several other lists
I will hand it back, blank.
It’s a damn foot in the door. Social Security has no business involving itself in such matters.
>> ... then ALL DemocRAT voter registration lists should also be sent to NICS.
That would include me, Sir. Following in dear old dad’s footsteps, I’ve spent my 50 years as a registered ‘RAT, happily screwing up their primaries by voting for all their loosers. (-:
The year cannot be over quickly enough....well assuming hilary deos not get elected.
Dom is retured a few years and worked 40 years depite having his legs crushed in MC accident. He collects SS.
This gets my guard up. It was zero at my house this morning.
I said even the celestials get it!!! Zero.
Tyranny doesn’t always arrive with tanks, goose-stepping troops, and colorful banners.
Sometimes it just sneaks in quietly.
I figured there was more to this than the article mentioned. Still, appointing a representative payee is *not* equivalent to being adjudicated mentally incompetent. Therefore, this is still a huge infringement.
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