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Feeling the Bern
Townhall.com ^ | February 11, 2016 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 02/11/2016 6:57:28 AM PST by Kaslin

Well, that was interesting.

The New Hampshire primary is over and the results were…sort of what was expected. Beyond the headlines, however…

On the Democratic side, and according the Gloria Steinem and Madeleine Albright, there are a lot of young women chasing boys straight to Hell. Hillary Clinton not only lost the youth vote by an amazing margin, she lost young women by so much it has to be a shock to a candidate who considers her gender among the top reasons to support her candidacy.

She lost every demographic except people making more than $200,000 and older than 65. But amazingly, Hillary is doing the worst with people for whom the scandals of her husband's administration are faded memories from their childhood or passing topics in their history classes. To say she has a likability problem is like saying the Titanic had a glut of ice cubes for drinks. The people who know the least of her history dislike her the most.

Hillary threw everything at New Hampshire in an attempt to keep her loss, which was a foregone conclusion, to single digits. Had she lost by nine or less - or even 10 - she would've claimed a moral victory for keeping the margins down against Bernie Sanders that close to his home state. But she was destroyed, beaten by more than 20 points in a race she led by 40 points three months ago.

To put that in perspective, in 2008, in a field of five, Hillary Clinton received 39 percent of the vote. In 2016, in a field of her and an old socialist, she got 38 percent. That's not just spinning her wheels; that's backsliding.

Interestingly, after essentially a tie in Iowa and a rout in New Hampshire for Sanders, Hillary is destroying Bernie in the delegate count. Thanks to "superdelegates," party officials who are free to support whichever candidate promises them the most (and who can promise more than a Clinton?), Hillary has 394 nominating delegates to 42 for Sanders.

Somehow, Sanders, who dominated New Hampshire and likely won the popular vote in Iowa - the state party, led by a Clinton loyalist, refuses to release the numbers - is losing the race for the nomination and badly.

To keep Democratic Party voters from realizing just how undemocratic their nominating process is, team Clinton is pinning its hopes on South Carolina to serve as a firewall against Sanders. More specifically, the campaign and the Democratic Party machine are counting on the black vote to reject Sanders and fall for the Clinton name.

If the black vote can be turned out to vote against a man who was directly involved in the civil rights movement, having been arrested in 1962 while protesting housing discrimination at the University of Chicago (before it was fashionable for suburban white people to be involved with the civil rights movement), she will win. But if Sanders can make inroads with the black vote, even keep it close, the Democrats will have a fight on their hands for which they are completely unprepared.

How can Hillary perform so awfully when everyone in control of the levers of power set the stage for her to succeed? The party limited the number of debates for her and scheduled them at times few would watch. Now we know why.

It turns out even progressive Democrats don't like having their decisions on electoral issues made for them. DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz tried to limit Clinton's exposure to tough questions but in the process created momentum for her opponents.

Former Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley was thought to have been Hillary's biggest concern from the left, but he showed all the charm of a department store mannequin. That sent people who wanted to at least explore their options to find Sanders.

The party underestimated just how radical its base had become. After decades of fostering discontent with American society as a weapon against Republicans, the monster the party created has turned against it.

The Democratic Party power structure is just as radical, of course, but did not want that on display. Now it has no choice.

Hillary has to not only attack Bernie Sanders, she has to do so in a way that convinces a large swath of his supporters she will champion the same radical causes and simultaneously position herself toward the center for a prospective general election run. It's a nearly unimaginable quandary for someone who just a few months ago appeared to have to deliver only a tap-in putt for victory.

The biggest problem facing Hillary Clinton is still not Bernie Sanders. Sanders is in an unexpected and enviable position, but the deck is almost hopelessly stacked against him.

Her biggest problem - and Bernie's biggest asset - is herself. Even if she manages to change the paradigm to her favor again and win the nomination, she'll still have that problem.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: berniesanders; election2016
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To: chuckee

Socialism may be classist but it isn’t known to be racist.


21 posted on 02/11/2016 7:29:19 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ETL

Hillary couldn’t deserve anyone better. Go Bernie Go.


22 posted on 02/11/2016 7:29:51 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: FlipWilson

“freestuffers”

I like that term.

Did you coin it?


23 posted on 02/11/2016 7:31:31 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Apparently when Bernie was young he worked as a carpenter.

Which means that, unlike Obama, he once held a real job.


24 posted on 02/11/2016 7:32:17 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Bernie going to jail in the 60s for Civil Rights is a big point that I hope his surrogates are making in SC.


25 posted on 02/11/2016 7:33:27 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Iron Munro

I don’t know whether freestuffism is worse than the fix. Freedom should include the freedom to vote yourself free stuff and then deal with the consequences of how much it costs. But this is only mammon. Hillary represents soul sales to Satan.


26 posted on 02/11/2016 7:34:37 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Hmm. This means he could campaign on a Jesus vibe if he wanted to... not that I’d suggest earthly socialism is a Jesus vibe (church charity would be, though).

As long as he doesn’t then admonish Donald Trump from Three Corinthians.


27 posted on 02/11/2016 7:36:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin
I'm not for Bernie but I do like some of his fans

Do I even need the Not Guilty here. Nope.
28 posted on 02/11/2016 7:36:46 AM PST by jpsb (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied. Otto von Bismark)
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To: tanknetter

Oh yeah!

Feel the Bern, Berning against racism and he actually put skin in the game.

Also afterwards, feel the cheat.

Ooh, BLM is going to love that. (Not)

So to whom would they then go in the GOP, if they were thus minded? Trump is the only one who would be remotely close.


29 posted on 02/11/2016 7:38:44 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"Cynical guess or did you get a report?"

The information about the delegate count is all over the TV, the internet and other electronic media.

Just google "Hillary delegate count" or "Democrat delegate" count.

Here is one source:

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/02/10/thanks-to-superdelegates-hillary-clinton-still-wins-after-getting-crushed-in-new-hampshire.html

"According to the Associated Press' delegate count, Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders 394-44. Clinton has roughly 360 superdelegates to 8 for Bernie Sanders. Clinton already has 16.5% of the delegates needed to win the nomination."

Here is a second source:

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/graphics/2016-delegate-tracker/

Democratic Delegates

Needed to win nomination: 2,382

Hillary Clinton: 394

Bernie Sanders: 44

Not yet allocated: 4,325


30 posted on 02/11/2016 7:40:50 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I wouldn’t count on Trump, although he’s the most likely.

Think third party (if there is someone who goes that route) or stay home in disgust.


31 posted on 02/11/2016 7:45:07 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Iron Munro

How has Bernie actually been doing vote-wise, if the system were to look like the GOP one?


32 posted on 02/11/2016 7:47:36 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: tanknetter

Well Trump got the Jimmuh nod. That might mean something.


33 posted on 02/11/2016 7:48:08 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Maybe, but there is a lot of hatred for Hillary by the Bernie crowd. I am not sure they will forget that so easily. Especially if it starts being repeated over and over.


34 posted on 02/11/2016 7:52:47 AM PST by my small voice (A biased media and an uneducated populace is the biggest thre at to our nation.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
How has Bernie actually been doing vote-wise

Well, they supposedly split 50/50 in Iowa but there are many accusations of vote fraud there favorable to Hillary that the democrat party won't release the vote totals.

See this:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2016/02/09/awkward-iowa-dems-are-refusing-to-release-raw-vote-totals-n2117005

In New Hampshire Bernie won 60% to Hillary's 38%

Vote count: Bernie = 151,584

Hillary = 95,252

Source: http://www.wmur.com/politics/2016-full-new-hampshire-presidential-primary-election-results/37649066


35 posted on 02/11/2016 7:57:30 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Iron Munro

Well maybe the Dem voter will begin to envy the GOP. What are these superdelegates anyhow? The lie on top? What earns them for Hillary? Just her stature?


36 posted on 02/11/2016 7:59:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin
there's just something about the 'Feel the Bern' slogan that's not right.

maybe it has to do with the candidate that vilifies business owners and the rich while pushing for nationwide socialism by promising everything and anything for votes... to be provided by taking whatever they need from the evil 1%

GEMEINNUTZ GEHT VOR EIGENNUTZ -- 'common good comes before self'

the 'evil' 1%

take what is needed

Feel the Bern

37 posted on 02/11/2016 8:24:21 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What earns them [Super Delegates]for Hillary? Just her stature?

Democrat party Super delegates are democrat party political insiders.

In fact - Bill Clinton himself is a Super Delegate !!!!!

Super Delegates can vote for whomever they please without regard to how the popular vote goes.

It is clear that the democrat party establishment intends for Hillary to be their candidate,.
Bernie was supposed to just be a pretend challenger for her throne but has become somewhat of a real threat.

Here are the 2016 Super Delegates according to Wickipedia:

To see a complete list of the Super Delegates by name go here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Democratic_Party_superdelegates,_2016


38 posted on 02/11/2016 8:37:49 AM PST by Iron Munro (The wise have stores of choice food and oil but a foolish man devours all he has. Proverbs 21:20)
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To: Kaslin


39 posted on 02/11/2016 8:38:50 AM PST by MacNaughton (" ...it is better to die on the losing side than to live under Communism." Whitaker Chambers)
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To: Iron Munro
Thanks to "superdelegates," party officials who are free to support whichever candidate promises them the most (and who can promise more than a Clinton?), Hillary has 394 nominating delegates to 42 for Sanders.

When it dawns on Bernie's backers that they've been scammed by the Democrat Establishment, we're going to pick up some of those voters..

40 posted on 02/11/2016 9:03:02 AM PST by GOPJ (Allowing illegals to stay in the U.S is like paying ransom to terrorists - an incentive for more)
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