Posted on 02/10/2016 6:12:21 AM PST by justlittleoleme
My gut (and let’s be fair, almost every analyst was united on this one) turned out to be correct; Rubio’s momentum coming out of Iowa was effectively killed on Saturday.
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What is more, the fact that non-affiliated voters are allowed to vote in the primaries rewards candidates who are perceived as moderate and authentic.
But here’s the thing: Maybe I’ll be proven wrong, but I’m skeptical Kasich can replicate this in other states where conservative voters matter a lot more in primaries.
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My guess is that Tuesday night will be the highlight of Kasich’s 2016 campaign.
So the really interesting point is that I think the big winner of the night is Ted Cruz . The primaries are about to head South, which is Cruz country. Unlike other Evangelical candidates who win Iowa but can’t parlay that into more, Cruz’s respectable finish in New Hampshire demonstrates that he’s not simply a regional candidate.
If you think about what happened on Tuesday night, Cruz swapped a serious rival (Rubio) for a guy who likely is a one-hit wonder (Kasich). That’s a trade he will take every day and twice on Sundays. Because the “establishment” lane is now muddled and muddy (even Jeb Bush is looking better these days!), there is a real danger that mainstream conservative voters could begin to coalesce around Cruz as the best, last hope to stop Donald Trump.
We’re not quite there yet. There’s still a chance that someone else could emerge. Maybe Rubio pulls out a surprise win in South Carolina? It ain’t over till it’s over. But we are getting dangerously close to entering a stage where it becomes a Trump vs. Cruz race.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
I think winning means you got the most votes.
Has that changed? lol
The Iowa dirty tricks campaign and unending pleas for money destroyed his image.
Denial is a beautiful thing.
It so beats reality.
But it's not 'winning'...
that person wasn’t me....
But I will comment....
My conservative values may not be the same as your conservative values, I have no Idea. Don’t know you.
What I place higher in my list of importance, may different than yours as well.
Mine are: GOD,Family,Church Family and Country.
You may be the same.
As far as priorities in my ideal presidential candidate. Whether or not that candidate is actually is any of these things may only be revealed by history.
So my main two qualifiers are:
Respect and Fear of God and Respect and Honor for the Constitution.
Everything else for me flows from the above two things.
As far as I can see and what I know of all of the candidates. Ted Cruz appears to be the closest to what I am looking for. As for now my vote still stays with Ted Cruz.
Not agreeing with Cruz was the real winner in New Hampshire, Trump won.
Not agreeing that Rubio was the real winner in Iowa, Cruz won.
I am a Cruz supporter, but the facts are the facts.
Cruz won Iowa, Trump won New Hampshire.
On another note:
Odd, strange to me, that a state whose very motto is “Live Free or Die” would vote so heavily for Sanders the Socialist.
I know the polls are from Jan 23, but I dont see how the NH victory is going to DIMINISH Trumps 36-point first place position in SC.
We shall see in the coming days.
But keep hanging on to that idea, that no true conservatives voted for Trump.
Because thats what a solid block of Cruz supporters are saying here in FR, that they are the only true and good and real and pure conservatives and the rest of us just arent.
(Pardon me, but I have to laugh.)
I can't decide if I'm horrified or impressed by your citing of Cars 2 in a political analogy. I feel like Cera in The Land Before Time 7, who was both impressed and skeptical of the two Rainbow Faces and their tales of the Mysterious Beyond.
LOL, it won’t ever be Bush vs. Trump. Just like last time, it’ll be the wealthy flip-flopping northeastern establishment RINO who wins NH (Romney or Trump) against a more conservative candidate who wins Iowa (Santorum or Cruz). If we want a candidate who is electable in the general, we need to make sure Cruz wins the nomination.
The liberals are dying to run against another 1%’er who has been saying stupid things on tape for years.
“Donât hold your breath waiting for Grahamnesty voters to pull the level for Cruz in SC.”
The Gramamnesty voters are voters are voting for pork for the state, NOT a candidate for POTUS. Big difference.
The NYC liberal is going to find much different voters in the south.
“Odd, strange to me, that a state whose very motto is âLive Free or Dieâ would vote so heavily for Sanders the Socialist.”
With liberals, everything means the opposite of the name.
To them freedom = socialism
Carly was the real winner. She beat Carson by DOUBLE DIGITS...!
When it comes to political strategy for a distributed election that takes place over time (like primaries) no, “winning” isn’t just about the most votes in a single race.
It’s about positioning for the upcoming races.
The point the article is making is that with a very weak (overall) Kasich having supplanted Rubio, we’re really looking at a two-way race between Trump and Cruz in South Carolina and going into Super Tuesday; states where Cruz’ strength with Evangelicals will be a benefit.
Thats all, not more complicated than that. But also not as simple as who won the most votes.
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To a degree for sure. Cruz didn't win as much as it was Rubio who took himself out of the race.
Cruz didn't and is therefore still a contender. In that sense Cruz won by not eliminating himself.
Despite getting beaten 60-39 in the vote, and people under 30 going for Bernie by an astounding 82-18, Hillary actually DID win in NH. It was 13-9 in regular delegates, but 6-0 in DEM "Super-delegates", so Hillary actually won 15-13. The youth vote will NOT be allowed to hear that from any mainstream source.
I just donated another $150 to Cruz. I believe it was Rush who said yesterday that even if he were 4th or less, it would not be a surprise & would not hurt him as he wasn’t expected to do well in NH. So, yes, I think he did VERY well & will do even better in the South. :)
WOW! Bernie is actually right, the economy elections are rigged.
He is in second, and will be until it is a 2-man race or until Trump trips on his own tongue. I have it projected as about 290-220 by March 2 (thank you TX). The race is to 1,237. Lots of time left.
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