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Cruz’s evangelical backer seeks to convert Jews, predicts new concentration camps
Times of Israel ^ | February 9, 2016 | Eric Cortellessa

Posted on 02/09/2016 3:18:07 PM PST by Praxeologue

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To: miserare

As I said, what is wierd with a guy who is following what Christ told all Christians to do?

Spread the Gospel and warn them that they will die in their sins if they reject Christ.

It is called the Great Commission. Matthew 28:18-20


41 posted on 02/09/2016 4:04:51 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike
WTF is your problem with him speaking the truth?

See my post #35.

I support Cruz.I want him to reject Bickle's support and disavow his statements NOW.

42 posted on 02/09/2016 4:05:18 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: OneVike

That is an extreme interpretation.


43 posted on 02/09/2016 4:06:17 PM PST by miserare ( "What difference does it make?"~~Benghazi Hil)
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To: Praxeologue; miserare

Why?

He is closer to the truth than those who claim other things about the end times.

As I said. God used the Egyptian, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, Rome, and YES most likely even Hitler and Stalin to punish His 1st chosen people, why is it so strange to think He will not do so again if they continue to reject Him, and now their Messiah?


44 posted on 02/09/2016 4:09:59 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: OneVike

Yeah—that Great Old Punisher in the sky.

My God is a God of love and mercy, and does not will his beloved sons and daughters to suffer.


45 posted on 02/09/2016 4:12:14 PM PST by miserare ( "What difference does it make?"~~Benghazi Hil)
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To: OneVike
God used the Egyptian, the Assyrians, the Babylonians, Rome, and YES most likely even Hitler and Stalin to punish His 1st chosen people, why is it so strange to think ...

Because it sounds like a wish or a threat. Rightly or wrongly, that's the way it comes across.

46 posted on 02/09/2016 4:12:40 PM PST by Praxeologue
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To: Praxeologue; miserare

Your problem is you people look at things in the prism of today, with God He looks at things all in one.

God is the same today, yesterday and forever, we change not Him.

He may have graduated us from the Law to Christ the Messiah, but we still must all accept Him. Now we do so through His Son. Reject His Son and pay the consequences.

Not my rules, His.


47 posted on 02/09/2016 4:12:50 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Praxeologue; OneVike
Here: -- The Lord says, 'I'm going to give all 20 million of them the chance to respond to the fishermen. And I give them grace.; And he says, 'And if they don't respond to grace, I'm going to raise up the hunters.' And the most famous hunter in recent history is a man named Adolf Hitler, ... '

Whether it was a misapplication of scripture, or not, I don't know - but the 'Evangelical backer' was making reference to Jeremiah Chapter 16, where God says that after driving the people out of Israel, HE will bring them back to the land by 'fishers and hunters':

Jeremiah 16
15 But, The Lord liveth, that brought up the children of Israel from the land of the north, and from all the lands whither he had driven them: and I will bring them again into their land that I gave unto their fathers.
16 Behold, I will send for many fishers, saith the Lord, and they shall fish them; and after will I send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them from every mountain, and from every hill, and out of the holes of the rocks.

God has certainly uses evil men for his purposes - and God is sovereign over all.
I don't know about concentration camps (if the evangelical guy was quoted properly - I think he pulled that one out of his posterior), but his other comments are in line with what one would expect from a Christian.

48 posted on 02/09/2016 4:13:56 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Praxeologue

The is no greater supporter of Israel and Jewish people than Evangelical Christians.

Anti-semitism exists, but so do anti-Christ blood libel which is what this is.


49 posted on 02/09/2016 4:14:28 PM PST by unlearner (RIP America, 7/4/1776 - 6/26/2015, "Only God can judge us now." - Claus Von Stauffenberg / Valkyrie)
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To: Praxeologue
I've never heard of this yokel endorsing Cruz, but it's worth noting two things:
It's amazing the Islamist flooding Europe and the refugees that our headed are way have not been mentioned yet on this thread. Mind you they won't bother with concentration camps.

John 14:6 “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

In John 3. Jesus tells a Pharisee and ruler of the Jews he needs to be born again not that he needed to stay a Jew.

John 3:15-18 “That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

50 posted on 02/09/2016 4:15:48 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Praxeologue

I guess you would have been with the crowd that cut Isaiah in half and stoned Jeremiah for coming off like their prophecies were threats.

Not calling this guy a prophet, but he speaks the truth and you just don’t like it

You also come off like those who claim Christian preachers should not threaten them with hell if they don’t stop practicing or being homosexuality.


51 posted on 02/09/2016 4:16:19 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: Praxeologue

I’m not sure what the issue is here. If you are a Christian, of course you want Jews to accept Christ as their Messiah. And the Bible talks about the Great Tribulation, which will have Israel go through a period of peace followed by a period of severe persecution. So I’m not sure why it would be a problem for Cruz if one of his supporters is teaching the Bible...


52 posted on 02/09/2016 4:16:30 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Praxeologue

If Muslim ISIS OR OTHER EXTREMIST TOOK OVER THERE PROBABLY BE JEWISH CONCENTRATION CAMPS. But not by the free world countries!!!


53 posted on 02/09/2016 4:17:30 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: El Cid

Good points, and like I said, God has punished the Jews before for rejecting Him and now His Son their Messiah, why would I question some preacher for saying it is possible He would do so again?


54 posted on 02/09/2016 4:18:15 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: miserare

Too many of the Cruz supporters are involved in religious cults with an agenda of a Mullah-like Theocratic state that is totally incompatible with the Constitution of the United States. Being a so called true conservative to them means being a member of their cult or you are not true. This is total bongo stuff, and even Cruz knows he will massacred in the general election if this stuff gets out, and it will. The other day, one of these same cults had a big advert sign on the freeway essentially attacking Israel and Jews that unless they convert then Jesus will not come. This is not far removed from the Shia Iranian extremists saying the Mahdi that will come and establish Islamic utopia will not come out of some well in Iran unless and until the entire world is in flames of world war, only from world war and the flames and destruction will the Mahdi come out of the well. It does not matter if some other Cruz supporters try to make excuses for these cults which includes Glenn Beck and company, saying conversion is voluntary for the Jews, if these cultists took power they certainly would use force conversion on Jews in order to hasten so return of Jesus. This is without doubt. Of course, their madness would be resisted with massive response of citizen militias that will take down such nutcases in a New York minute.


55 posted on 02/09/2016 4:19:31 PM PST by ShivaFan
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To: CA Conservative; El Cid

Thank you. I was beginning to think my fellow freepers have become anti-Scriptural


56 posted on 02/09/2016 4:19:35 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: ShivaFan

You are obviously not a Christian who ever read the Scriptures about end times warnings.

You are the nut, you and those who claim true Bible believing Christians are nuts


57 posted on 02/09/2016 4:21:02 PM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting for a ride home)
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To: ShivaFan

Says a member of the Trump cult.


58 posted on 02/09/2016 4:23:21 PM PST by beandog (TrumperTantrum)
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To: Starstruck

How about posting a link or screen capture?


59 posted on 02/09/2016 4:26:22 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal (Amnesty advocates call me "Tio Tomas")
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To: beandog
Says a member of the Trump cult.

To my mind, this is not about Trump. It is about winning in November. Evangelicals can parse Bickle's words, scripturally true of false, all they want. The typical agnostic voter only needs to hear 'Hitler' and 'concentration camps' and we lose.

60 posted on 02/09/2016 4:30:34 PM PST by Praxeologue
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