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When Ted Cruz Said John Roberts Is Undoubtedly A Principled Conservative
Daily Caller ^ | 9/17/2015 | Alex Pappas

Posted on 02/01/2016 2:27:43 AM PST by Sontagged

When Ted Cruz Said John Roberts Is *Undoubtedly A Principled Conservative*

During Wednesday*s debate, Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz said his past support for the confirmation of Chief Justice John Roberts *was a mistake and I regret that*.

Cruz argued during CNN*s Reagan library debate that former President George W. Bush nominated Roberts *because it was the easier choice* and he wasn*t *willing to spend political capital to put a strong judicial conservative on the court.*

But as critics are pointing out, Cruz, who worked on the Bush campaign and later in the administration as a lawyer, was effusive in his praise of Roberts* nomination in 2005.

*John Roberts should be a quick confirm,* he wrote in the National Review.

*As an individual, John Roberts is undoubtedly a principled conservative, as is the president who appointed him,* Cruz said.

During the debate, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush defended his brother’s selection of Roberts, who has angered conservatives for upholding Obamacare, by saying broadly: *I think he is doing a good job.*

*You can rewrite history I guess Ted,* Bush said, *but the simple fact is, you supported him because he had all the criteria that you would have thought would have made a great justice. And I think he is doing a good job.*


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: canadian; cruz; ineligible; iowa; scotus; trump; trumptroll
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To: biff

You are kidding right?

Are you telling me you think I made up this Cruz is a shill for Bush meme?

LOL.

Get yourself over to the Consevative Treehouse -— you know — the guy that Rush was taking notes from on the “GOPe Splitter Strategy” months ago?

LOL

Yes I believe Cruz is a shill for the GOPe and Jeb. Here’s some GOPe Cruz theatrics for you:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2016/01/27/heres-why-ted-cruz-has-already-lost-iowa-glenn-beck-lying-version/


101 posted on 02/01/2016 6:29:53 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: justlittleoleme

Let’s put it another way.

Where is the GOP outcry and investigation into the Roberts’ decision?

Where is Cruz’s outcry and mea culpa investigation?


102 posted on 02/01/2016 6:32:48 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Leto

Where is the investigation into a possible blackmail of Roberts by the GOP and or Cruz, his old friend?


103 posted on 02/01/2016 6:35:27 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Soul of the South

Didn’t he also nominate Alito to the bench? Was that to appease the far left as well?


104 posted on 02/01/2016 6:36:13 AM PST by castowell (War is thus an act of force to compel our enemy to do our will - Von Clausewitz)
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To: Sontagged
June 30, 2015 - “Mr. Cruz was so enraged by the health-care ruling — as well as last week’s decision, not supported by Mr. Roberts, upholding gay marriage — that Mr. Cruz is calling for a constitutional amendment that would require Mr. Roberts and other Justices to stand for election every 8 years.

He did seriously complain.... In a multitude of places.. but what could he do as one senator? Do you honestly believe our congress in its current state would do anything? What kind of circus would that turn out to be?

Under normal circumstances, a Supreme Court justice is awarded a lifetime commission.

A Supreme Court Justice may be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted in a Senate trial, but only for the same types of offenses that would trigger impeachment proceedings for any other government official under Articles I and II of the Constitution.

Article III, Section 1 states that judges of Article III courts shall hold their offices "during good behavior." "The phrase "good behavior" has been interpreted by the courts to equate to the same level of seriousness 'high crimes and misdemeanors" encompasses.

In addition, any federal judge may prosecuted in the criminal courts for criminal activity. If found guilty of a crime in a federal district court, the justice would face the same type of sentencing any other criminal defendant would. The district court could not remove him/her from the Bench. However, any justice found guilty in the criminal courts of any felony would certainly be impeached and, if found guilty, removed from office.

In the United States, impeachment is most often used to remove corrupt lower-court federal judges from office, but it's not unusual to find disgruntled special interest groups circulating petitions on the internet calling for the impeachment of one or all members of the High Court.

Only one Supreme Court Justice, Samuel Chase (one of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence), has ever been impeached. The House of Representatives accused Chase of letting his Federalist political leanings affect his rulings, and served him with eight articles of impeachment in late 1804. The Senate acquitted him of all charges in 1805, establishing the right of the judiciary to independent opinion. Chase continued on the Court until his death in June 1811.

In 1957, at the height of McCarthyism, the Georgia General Assembly passed a joint resolution calling for "The Impeachment of Certain U.S. Supreme Court Justices" believed to be enabling Communism with their decisions. The resolution targeted Chief Justice Earl Warren and Associate Justices Hugo Black, William O. Douglas, Tom Campbell Clark, Felix Frankfurter, and Stanley Forman Reed (as well as several unnamed deceased Justices) for "...[usurping] the congressional power to make law in violation of Article I, Sections I and 8, and violated Sections 3 and 5 of the 14th Amendment and nullified the 10th Amendment of the Constitution."

http://www.answers.com/Q/Can_a_US_Supreme_Court_justice_be_impeached_and_removed_from_office

 

105 posted on 02/01/2016 6:43:27 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Sontagged

Cruz left the Bush bunch in 2003 because he did not like the goings on. Take your head out of your butt and check the facts and not what some inane place like CT. He was a deputy US attorney general until 2003.


106 posted on 02/01/2016 6:45:12 AM PST by biff
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To: Sontagged
I was responding to your remark. Isn't that what a discussion is? If you make a public judgment about one candidate's Christianity, make the same public judgment about all of the candidates.

Do you hold Trump to the same Christian standards as you hold Cruz? A simple question.

My opinion-we were all fooled by by Roberts which says nothing about our Christianity. I find it hard to believe Cruz did not know he held joint citizenship (or whatever the term is). I take it into consideration in deciding his worthiness as a candidate, but not as a Christian. We are all guilty of things along the way which contradict what we believe. Let God be the judge on that one.

107 posted on 02/01/2016 6:49:09 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: justlittleoleme

John Roberts was Cruz’s “mentor” and “friend”.

If my mentor had been the lynch pin for the single-most damaging decision outside of Roe in the history of the nation — I’d do more than say “I made a mistake”.

Thank you for your research, which begs the question — why hasn’t Cruz pushed for impeachment?

(Answer: it’s all GOPe theatrics)


108 posted on 02/01/2016 6:54:04 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Sontagged
He didn't just say he made a mistake....

June 30, 2015 - “Mr. Cruz was so enraged by the health-care ruling — as well as last week’s decision, not supported by Mr. Roberts, upholding gay marriage — that Mr. Cruz is calling for a constitutional amendment that would require Mr. Roberts and other Justices to stand for election every 8 years.

109 posted on 02/01/2016 6:56:53 AM PST by justlittleoleme (Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.)
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To: Sontagged
John Roberts was Cruz’s “mentor”

You're thinking of Chief Justice William Rehnquist whom Cruz served as clerk.

110 posted on 02/01/2016 7:01:09 AM PST by CrosscutSaw
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To: biff

If you can refute the GOPe Splitter Strategy, let’s see your homework. Conservative Treehouse also was lied to by the Cruz people who told Sundance they would refute Cruz’s role in the splitter strategy by providing their own numbers/pathway to the nomination.

Cruz’s people never gave Sundance what they said they would.

But soon after, they gave George Will a fake pathway, which was debunked.

So yes, I agree with Rush as to Conservative Treehouse’s validity. I’ll be happy to see your refutation any time.


111 posted on 02/01/2016 7:04:19 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: CrosscutSaw

Cruz said “mentor” about Roberts. Check my earlier link.


112 posted on 02/01/2016 7:05:09 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: justlittleoleme

Yes I remember, Cruz has said a lot of the right things.

But nothing actually gets done. And nothing really gets explained.

Thus this thread.


113 posted on 02/01/2016 7:10:39 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Sontagged

The splinter strategy was to get Bush elected. Cruz was the first to announce his candidacy and just in case you are not aware, there is no love lost between the bushes and Cruz.

The splitters were Huck, Donut Boy, Mailmans boy, and rubio and they were intended to cut Cruz’s candidacy. Then Trump came along and screwed their whole plan to pieces. They are all still after Cruz.

What I am trying to figure out is how much republicanE money will go over the the democrat side when trump wins the nomination?


114 posted on 02/01/2016 7:11:31 AM PST by biff
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

If you want to discuss Trump’s Christianity please go right ahead, but I didn’t say I needed to.

As to Cruz’s Christianity, I’m concerned because of his obfuscation/omissions regarding his Canadian birth and eligibility. Pretending to not know you were a Canadian citizen after you’ve been elected to the US Senate is a really big deal.

As to Roberts, I refuse to believe the GOPe line that it was just a huge mistake by everybody and that a possible illegal adoption is the reason we have Obamacare?

If someone blackmailed Roberts — shouldn’t Cruz and other old time Bushies be doing everything they can to find out?


115 posted on 02/01/2016 7:17:51 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Sontagged

What he apparently didn’t know was how blackmailable he was.


116 posted on 02/01/2016 7:20:38 AM PST by zeugma (Lon Horiuchi is the true face of the feral government. Remember that. Always.)
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To: biff

Yes, thanks for shoveling that pile over my way just now.

You just gave yourself away. Meanwhile, Cruz remains a GOPe shill for Jeb.


117 posted on 02/01/2016 7:21:42 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: zeugma

Yes it’s all just a terrible mistake and such a damn shame we conservatives keep getting wrecked by the GOPe/Uniparty and collusion with the Dems.

Oh well. Guess there’s nothing to be done about the downfall of the Republic.


118 posted on 02/01/2016 7:23:49 AM PST by Sontagged (Woe to you when all men shall speak well of you...)
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To: Sontagged; justlittleoleme
No responsible conservative that I know of denies the importance of analyzing why conservative judicial appointments have gone wrong. No responsible conservative that I know of denies the reality of the "GOPe/unitary party."

If you suspect that Ted Cruz is the root of the problem concerning judicial appointments, I don't know what to say because it's preposterous. I suggest you begin your analysis of Ted Cruz participation in the very helpful timeline that has been offered to us by justlittleoleme. An honest review of that reply should put any honest conservative' s mind to rest about the role of Ted Cruz.

The problem is the attack on Ted Cruz is not a matter of divided judgment about the wisdom of the Roberts appointment, this attack goes to the man's (Cruz') spiritual and religious condition. That is beyond absurd it is the kind of dirty politics that Donald Trump is practicing now and the kind of dirty tricks, intimidation and bribery Donald Trump has used all his life. Ted Cruz is the candidate so he is fair game, but attacking his spiritual condition in this context is really beyond the pael.

You (not you individually but you Trump supporters) revel in the poll numbers and cite them in justification of every grotesquerie committed by Donald Trump. I do not deny that Trump might well be on his way to the nomination and, if nominated, I will hold my nose and vote for him but I will hold my nose because I realize that he, even with all his massive defects of character which could really imperil this nation as well as the conservative movement, is still a better option than any Democrat. To argue that Donald Trump is more likely to appoint conservative Justices than Ted Cruz is to insult the reader's intelligence but at least there is a chance that Trump will appoint a more conservative Justice than any Democrat so we patriotic conservatives if the time comes will hold our nose, fall on our knees in prayer and supplication and pull the lever that represents the least bad option.

But, by God, I will not submit to character assassination of every individual who stands in Trump's way. Nor will I sit mutely when absurd or malevolent arguments are used to make virtually everyone in the world wrong so that Donald Trump can be right. I will do what I can to prevent Donald Trump from the spoiling the conservative brand. I will do what I can to prevent him getting the nomination because I'm a patriotic American.

This is a conservative political forum and it is our job to vet the conservative bona fides of the candidates. I intend to do precisely that within the bounds of decency and logic so long as I have the strength to do so. I intend to combat the sleazy tactics deployed in support of Donald Trump by the candidate himself and by those who ape him to the best of my ability.


119 posted on 02/01/2016 7:26:45 AM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Sontagged

You had GOT to be out of your mind. No wonder we lose.


120 posted on 02/01/2016 7:31:55 AM PST by biff
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