Posted on 01/31/2016 10:18:08 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
In an interview this morning on This Week, Donald Trump cited his desire to "help people" as the reason he favors government-funded universal health coverage. Unlike Ted Cruz, Trump said, "I have a heart."
"If somebody has no money and they're lying in the middle of the street and they're dying, I'm going to take care of that person," Trump said.
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
No. Cruz voted against TPA. Pretzel that.
You know, I started with snappish remarks and purposefully moderated myself in order to try to communicate with you. Because it seemed like maybe you would be willing to acknowledge that just maybe other people might believe differently than you do and aren’t evil or stupid for it.
As it turns out, you’re just as nasty as the rest of them. Kudos for tricking me, but you just solidified my vote against Cruz.
Problem is, both of those things will probably net cost jobs, not create them. Again, that doesn't really bother me, because I'm not in favor of employing Mexico locally.
The only other things a President can really do to create jobs involve: lowering the government burden on the private economy. I don't hear Trump talking about that. I don't hear Trump saying he will reduce the size of the Federal Registry. I don't hear Trump saying he will dismantle the DHS -- which does essentially nothing -- or the Department of Education -- ditto.
He certainly is not talking about curtailing the EPA, which is probably the most destructive Federal Agency there is.
"Fabulous, fabulous people. The best people. Terrific People. Really terrific!" are not going to create any jobs, and I really don't hear any ideas about reducing the size and abusiveness of government. Just platitudes and slogans about great, great terrific people, "making deals," and "good management." And of course, "winning."
That would be different from the GOP-e, how?
“The EPA isn’t autonomous...they take orders like everyone else”
This is true. The President’s job is to administrate the govt. He can make the EPA do anything he wants. He does not need Congress to roll back all the insane environmental regs. He does not need Congress to take the Veteran’s Admin by the back of the neck and make them straighten up either or any other govt agency. He can stop the war on coal anytime he wants like the first day in office. He can also call the BLM off the ranchers and miners anytime.
“And if you suggest you are some sort of a victim”
Oh no. Not at all.
I won’t ‘rah-rah-rah’ for every nasty thing, I’ll tell you that much.
Not happy with the insinuation.
And he had to know this would tick people off — he deserves outrage when he sounds like a liberal — ‘Unversal’.
But NRO keeps jumping the shark. Watering down the impact.
FRegards ....
You are a little confused the H-1B visa has nothing to do with Mexico or illegal immigrants.
Nonsense. Serious economists have done the calculations. Healthcare costs are out of control because of the disconnect between the payer and the beneficiary, and because there are no real market controls on the government programs, which account for almost half of all healthcare payments. Illegals should go home, but they aren’t causing the problem.
I also addressed that he said he would keep the EPA while stumping for the Ethanol Mandate, which immediately followed the Iowa Governor calling for the defeat of Cruz because Cruz had said he'd eliminate the mandate (The Governor's son is an ethanol industry lobbyist).
It is no secret, that after having replaced carburetors on small engines, and with a father who was commercially fishing having outboard motors die (a situation which can get you killed) because he can't get no-ethanol fuel where he lives, that I don't like that mandate.
I can get no ethanol fuel where I live, and I use it because I get about 10% better fuel mileage and since have not had a small engine die or had to replace a fuel system.
Please read my posts, FRiend. 383, 320, and 87
It was the other poster 367, Luircin, who introduced terms for Trump supporters to the conversation.
No.
I’m not going to answer that because even if I gave you a thesis-level reply, you’d reject everything I said and throw more talking points at me. You have shown that you are not interested in a conversation; you just want to harangue someone.
I will give that you are not as bad as the three that rode the lightning last night, but I am not interested in being browbeaten for something that I’ve already considered when making my decision, nor answering loaded questions from the contingent of True Believers.
‘They were also openly telling people to no longer contribute financially to the site.’
You could call that a ‘cyber-fatwa’.
Ok, cool. I am getting weary of Cruz and Trump supporters here claiming that they are being victimized somehow.
First of all, Trump is pushing the liberal lie that people are "left to die in the street" . That is not true. Emergency rooms have to treat the patient, so technically all people are covered. And there are clinics exc for people to get medical care..
It should also be noted that every place that has ever tried universal healthcare-It ends up destroying both the quality, (doctor shortages, no incentives for research exc...) , and quantity (healthcare rationing), of the care.
But, the most important issue is whether the government should be involved in citizen's healthcare at all.
(I like Cruz's plan best. It allows for free market competition-purchase insurance from any state. The insurance would be portable too. An affordable catastrophic plan would be available. Health savings plans exc... The best thing about it is, it leaves the government mostly out of healthcare.)
Prior to the outrage of Obamacare being FORCED on the entire country- Healthcare was a PRIVATE MATTER between you and your doctor.
Now it's between you, the government, (including the IRS!), and if you're not due for health care rationing ,(because of inevitable shortages) , a doctor.
So, then, if the government approves- A doctor, (not your doctor-no choice for you), can then provide you with some care (according to whatever the government says you are allowed to have).
The whole problem with Universal Healthcare comes down to this:
If the government controls your healthcare- the government controls you.
“What about ‘Universal Health Coverage’ — he did say that at least?”
I don’t remember exactly; don’t think so. He did say everyone should have health care; that people shouldn’t be allowed to die in the streets.
i don’t think anyone can really argue with that; it’s how we go about doing that.
the one issue no will talk about though, is we could fix our health care system from a cost aspect by refusing free medical care to foreign nationals: just ship ‘em back home.
the rest of the necessary reforms is simply to repeal Ocare, allow insurance companies to sell any product they wish and to any states they wish (without regulation by state regulators), and allow people to buy the best product that best meets their own needs at a price they can afford.
I won’t disagree too much but remember the times, The Depression. There were several Supreme Court decisions that invalidated New Deal Legislation but there were also some that went way over the line and invalidated aspects of the Constitution.
We are past the point where Black Letter law and strict interpretation of the Constitution will be done.
As Garet P. Garret, Saturday Evening Post Editor on the 1930’s and 1940’s, opined in 1938, The Revolution Happened without a shot in November 1932.
There is no going back at this point. The people will not let it happen. So there you are.
You, my friend, can go commit a singular vice to the point of expiration.
Great job stumping for Cruz. Insult people in your posts, insult people in your tagline.
No wonder your boy is losing with gems like you working for him.
In the end it really is just words on a screen. :)
Here we go!
‘I like Cruz’s plan best. It allows for free market competition-purchase insurance from any state. The insurance would be portable too. An affordable catastrophic plan would be available. Health savings plans exc... The best thing about it is, it leaves the government mostly out of healthcare.’
Let the debate of healthcare begin!
We want a debate!
Trump and Cruz debate!
We want a debate!
Trump and Cruz debate!
And yet, Cruz was still instrumental in getting it passed. Because if the cloture vote had not succeeded, it would have never been passed.
But because he voted in favor of cloture, it went to the floor and passed.
But of course, you know that.
I got one better, Read “The Roosevelt Myth” by John T. Flynn, get the updated version on Amazon.
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